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    • Kehaulani
      Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

      Back in the '60s, Getzen put out a newsletter and a regular contributor was an American (I think North Texas ex) who was working in the Eastern European countries and he used the Getzen high-pitched horns, professionally. What happened?

      p.s. ring a bell? Does anybody remember who this was?)

      Benge 3X
      Martin Committee
      Getzen Capri Cornet
      Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

      "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
      Charlie Parker

      "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
      Chet Baker

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      • Newell Post
        Newell Post last edited by

        Barliman:

        Have you ever played an Eterna picc? I had one and, even for a mostly recreational player like me, it just wasn't very good. Also, USD 1,500 is a lot to pay for one. I sold mine for about $950 as I recall (in very good condition). And that was more than I paid for it. I haven't been able to try one of Trent's "doubler" horns, but it is entirely possible they are better than the Eterna picc.

        Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
        Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
        C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
        D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
        Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
        Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
        Conch shell in F

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        • barliman2001
          barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

          Well, the Getzen Eterna picc escaped me, and Trent has agreed to find me one of his ACB Doubler piccs, so as soon as he accepts my money, I'll try it out and report.

          Courtois Balanced
          Courtois D
          Olds Recording
          Buescher Aristocrat
          Gaudet C
          Selmer G
          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
          Besson International Bb cornet
          Courtois Bb cornet
          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
          B&H Sovereign trombone
          Willy Garreis trombone
          Weltklang Euph

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          • barliman2001
            barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

            To put an end to all you people getting blue in the face holding your breath for news of the ACB Doubler picc...
            It Has Arrived.
            Sturdy box big enough for a euphonium. Lots of bubblewrap, then a nice lightweight case with a big outside pocket and rings for either a shoulder strap or backpack straps. Two straps provided.
            Sturdy zipper.
            And then...
            more bubblewrap
            A nice fabric leadpipe pouch with a spare A leadpipe
            A nondescript 7C mouthpiece (not a bad one, as they go)...
            and one gorgeous ACB Doubler piston picc in yellow brass with satin lacquer.
            Nice finish, nice to touch. Comfortable to hold. And then...
            Surprisingly easy to play (a Selmer is much harder, and even the Stomvi Elite is not as free-blowing). Intonation is superb - not much facial acrobatics needed to keep in tune in all ranges. And the tone is quite pleasant as well. Needs a bit of getting used to, but that's with every picc.
            At that price (Trent was so kind as to ask the show demo price, and included the second leadpipe) I am very, very happy!
            Oh yes, what did I pay?
            $ 685, and had to pay another 100 bucks import duties (collected by the postman).
            Still very happy. First official outing is a concert with the Vienna Lakeside Music Academy for their concert "Over and Under" featuring music from animated movies, 25 January. So now I'll have to do a bit of practising!
            Trent, thanks!!

            Courtois Balanced
            Courtois D
            Olds Recording
            Buescher Aristocrat
            Gaudet C
            Selmer G
            Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
            Besson International Bb cornet
            Courtois Bb cornet
            B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
            B&H Sovereign trombone
            Willy Garreis trombone
            Weltklang Euph

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            • edfitzvb
              edfitzvb last edited by

              Wonderful to see a happy ending between 2 people who I hold in esteem.

              1954 Olds Super/Bach 43 Uptilt Bell Frankenhorn (Bflat)
              1968 Olds Recording (Bflat)
              1965 Bach Strad 37 (Bflat)
              2011 Yamaha Xeno CH Artist (C)
              1968 Olds L-12 Flugelhorn
              1958 Conn 80A cornet
              1951 Olds Super cornet

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              • Kehaulani
                Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @edfitzvb last edited by

                @edfitzvb
                Was there a conflict?

                Benge 3X
                Martin Committee
                Getzen Capri Cornet
                Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                Charlie Parker

                "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                Chet Baker

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                • edfitzvb
                  edfitzvb last edited by

                  There was obvious confusion and disappointment, and a cultural miscommunication as to what constitutes a sale.....
                  To me, disagreement constitutes conflict. Perhaps it is a matter of semantics

                  1954 Olds Super/Bach 43 Uptilt Bell Frankenhorn (Bflat)
                  1968 Olds Recording (Bflat)
                  1965 Bach Strad 37 (Bflat)
                  2011 Yamaha Xeno CH Artist (C)
                  1968 Olds L-12 Flugelhorn
                  1958 Conn 80A cornet
                  1951 Olds Super cornet

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                  • barliman2001
                    barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

                    All's well that ends well.

                    Courtois Balanced
                    Courtois D
                    Olds Recording
                    Buescher Aristocrat
                    Gaudet C
                    Selmer G
                    Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                    Besson International Bb cornet
                    Courtois Bb cornet
                    B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                    B&H Sovereign trombone
                    Willy Garreis trombone
                    Weltklang Euph

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                    • ACB
                      ACB Trusted Seller @barliman2001 last edited by

                      @barliman2001 I agree completely! Thank you for your patience and flexibility.

                      Please email the shop over PM (info@austincustombrass.com)

                      www.austincustombrass.biz
                      www.austincustombrass.com
                      www.facebook.com/austincustombrass

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                      • barliman2001
                        barliman2001 Global Moderator @ACB last edited by

                        @ACB said in Which picc?:

                        @barliman2001 I agree completely! Thank you for your patience and flexibility.

                        I return the compliment.

                        Courtois Balanced
                        Courtois D
                        Olds Recording
                        Buescher Aristocrat
                        Gaudet C
                        Selmer G
                        Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                        Besson International Bb cornet
                        Courtois Bb cornet
                        B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                        B&H Sovereign trombone
                        Willy Garreis trombone
                        Weltklang Euph

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                        • barliman2001
                          barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

                          Now that everything has dissolved into broad smiles, I am closing the thread. Thanks for watching and commenting.

                          Courtois Balanced
                          Courtois D
                          Olds Recording
                          Buescher Aristocrat
                          Gaudet C
                          Selmer G
                          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                          Besson International Bb cornet
                          Courtois Bb cornet
                          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                          B&H Sovereign trombone
                          Willy Garreis trombone
                          Weltklang Euph

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                          • barliman2001
                            barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by barliman2001

                            Really had to unlock the thread again after yesterday...
                            Ok, first rehearsal with the ACB picc. Descant part for "Fairytale" (out of Shrek).
                            Orchestra horribly sharp. No problem with the ACB - you can tune it up to C.
                            In the part, it really sang. My trumpet partner in crime (trumpet student at Vienna's Music University) was impressed and said so, wanted to try it... did try it, with a few excerpts from Torelli and Michael Haydn... gave it back, cursing all the while.
                            I asked him why?
                            Well, turns out he only last week bought a brand spanking new gold-plated Scherzer, for an outrageous $ 5.600,-, and now likes the ACB better!

                            Courtois Balanced
                            Courtois D
                            Olds Recording
                            Buescher Aristocrat
                            Gaudet C
                            Selmer G
                            Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                            Besson International Bb cornet
                            Courtois Bb cornet
                            B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                            B&H Sovereign trombone
                            Willy Garreis trombone
                            Weltklang Euph

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                            • administrator
                              administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                              This conversation has really given me the itch to start collecting trumpets again!

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                              • barliman2001
                                barliman2001 Global Moderator @administrator last edited by

                                @administrator said in Which picc?:

                                This conversation has really given me the itch to start collecting trumpets again!

                                Follow your itch!

                                Courtois Balanced
                                Courtois D
                                Olds Recording
                                Buescher Aristocrat
                                Gaudet C
                                Selmer G
                                Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                                Besson International Bb cornet
                                Courtois Bb cornet
                                B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                                B&H Sovereign trombone
                                Willy Garreis trombone
                                Weltklang Euph

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                                • barliman2001
                                  barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

                                  Ok, as promised, here's the report from the first concert with the ACB picc.
                                  Read about "Acoustics" - description of the very unconventional hall we played in. Lots of open spaces, lots of glass, two staircases... during rehearsal, sound just vanished. At the performance, the ACB without amp easily filled the hall without effort, blended well with all the brass section of the orchestra (one Lechner Bb, one Cerveny tenor horn, one K&H trombone and a really ancient Lidl tuba). No problem with intonation even after a long wait for it being played - only used in the final piece.
                                  Audience were thrilled, gave us 14 minutes of applause. I'm content.

                                  Courtois Balanced
                                  Courtois D
                                  Olds Recording
                                  Buescher Aristocrat
                                  Gaudet C
                                  Selmer G
                                  Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                                  Besson International Bb cornet
                                  Courtois Bb cornet
                                  B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                                  B&H Sovereign trombone
                                  Willy Garreis trombone
                                  Weltklang Euph

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