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    Did anyone made a copy of "The Circle of Breath"

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    • Dirk020
      Dirk020 last edited by

      I once made a photocopy but can't find it anymore 😞

      Getzen, Conn, Melody Maker and -too- many Warburton pieces

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

        Everybody who wants to keep this, please copy and paste/save to your computer. Glad to help, just that I don't want to keep doing this. K'lani.

        Cycle of Breath

        1. The first step is a prepared body. If our chest cavity is "collapsed", we have to inflate it with force. That is pretty stupid. When we are sitting or standing up straight but relaxed (yoga is VERY good for this), all we have to do is inhale. We can get a huge amount of air without having to pressurize the lungs by force. Learning to prepare the body for playing is easy with beginners and increasingly difficult for players with more experience as they have to break habits to make new ones! It is important to have this activity monitored.

        2. Once the body is big and relaxed, we draw a big circle. The left side (moving clockwise) is inhale and the right side is exhale. Notice at the top and bottom of the circle that it is still round - no disturbances. Our transition from inhale to exhale and exhale to inhale must mirror that. We do not hold air in, it is either moving in or out. We have to practice getting BIG breaths without building up tension in the throat or upper body. We use the diaphragm to inhale, but subconsciously. We don't need to think about how those muscles work, we just give them the big, relaxed body and they know what to do!
          We do not need to "push" our air out, we just exhale. Generally students have a BIG problem getting a big breath and then just exhaling. There is so much "learned" tension present that they need weeks to get this down.

        3. Once our breathing works (in my lessons that means when I am satisfied - not when the student thinks that they are done), then we replace exhale with play. We do not tongue notes, we just switch to exhale and what happens, happens. The goal here is to develop the breathing apparatus and lips so that we are so relaxed that sound comes at the peak of the circle with no kickstart by the tongue. A couple of weeks of long tones this way shows us a lot about everything that we have been doing wrong. Notice how Rashawn in the youtube just exhales a triple C? Completely free of hard work! This is how it has to work in every register. Just exhale the note.

        4. When I am happy with this stage, the student exhales into lip slurs - same principle - no tongue! Just exhale! Another couple weeks goes by to "perfect" this (it is never perfect) and we have made a considerable step forward. Our tone is no longer dependent on the tongue to reliably speak - regardless of how high or low, loud or soft. Generally with no tongue applied, we can lip slur a fifth to an octave more than we had before. The range caves when making music because we are still missing too much stuff.

        5. At this point I have very specific things to learn to add the tongue. Critical here is that we do not use the sledgehammer tonguing that we needed when we were using pressure, we have to develop infinitely small "T", "D", "K", "G", "L", "R" attacks that are only used to "articulate" the beginning of the tone that occurs at the peak of the Circle of Breath. The tonguing must occur EXACTLY at the point where we switch from in- to exhale. If we tongue too early or late, we screw up the transition. This means we are back to long tones and trained ears and eyes to insure that old habits don't screw up what we have now carefully built. Once long tones work, we can tongue the initial intro into the lip slur. If our tone without attack was clean, the articulation is only frosting on top of the cake!

        6. Following this, the student gets easy tunes like from the hymnbook and we work on proper breathing and articulation of real music.

        This Circle of Breath is as far as I am concerned the biggest deal in trumpet playing. Without being able to do this, the rest can't ever click. It is as simple as inhale/exhale. The problem is understanding what we have done to ourselves: how sloppy we sit, stand, walk. How crappy our posture is, how caved in our upper body is, how tense our neck and shoulders are because we hang our heads, how brutal our tonguing is to kickstart a screwed embouchure that uses excessive pressure to enable playing at all. In addition we have a learned unwillingness to accept very small steps of improvement because we have learned to download cheats and believe the idiots that claim to have silver bullets for problems. We do not even notice the small improvements and therefore get frustrated that we haven't experienced the "miracle". I won't even get into lifestyle and attitude.

        The human state is a product of what we repeatedly do. We need challenges and successes. We need the wisdoms to prepare ourselves adequately for the challenges any time that we can. That foundation can carry us a long way if it is solid.

        I saw my lifes motto in a pub in Belfast a couple of years ago: Life is too short for cheap beer. We can add a lot of other things important to our wellbeing besides beer to this motto.

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        Martin Committee
        Getzen Capri Cornet
        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
        Charlie Parker

        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
        Chet Baker

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        • BigDub
          BigDub @Kehaulani last edited by

          @Kehaulani I never could grasp that whole thing, not that I disagree with it, but I just can’t wrap my head around it.
          I took it this way: the better my breathing becomes, the better my playing.
          That is how I wrapped it up.

          GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
          Assorted other mp's not used
          ( not very unusual….right? )

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          • Kehaulani
            Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

            I am not commenting on its content, just reproducing rowuk's procedure for anyone who wants it..

            Benge 3X
            Martin Committee
            Getzen Capri Cornet
            Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

            "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
            Charlie Parker

            "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
            Chet Baker

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            • BigDub
              BigDub @Kehaulani last edited by

              @Kehaulani .....understood. No problem

              GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
              Assorted other mp's not used
              ( not very unusual….right? )

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              • tjcombo
                tjcombo @BigDub last edited by

                @BigDub remember that we are trumpet players, here for our good looks and ability to play fast, loud and high, let's not question the underlying why's and wherefores ☺
                The teacher from whom I benefitted most in my early teens taught me to maintain rock-hard abs whilst playing. He was a leading pro trom player back in the day. I know from talking recently to older teachers (who teach a much more relaxed breathing method) that the hard abs method was advocated back then by the 1st trumpet from the Melbourne symph. At the time he was the go-to trumpet for many genres and a leading teacher.
                My vocal teacher introduced a similar concept to circle of breath. I picked up a horn after a long layoff and noticed that it seemed easier to play when applying the vocal breathing techniques (along with the relaxed muscles needed to sing). Nowadays, my range is a little better than it was back in the days of tensed-up guts, but it's certainly way easier to play, control and make (JMHO) a nice sound.
                So circle of breath is a real thing, it reinforced the ideas from my singing teacher and nicely articulated the breathing technique.

                Now whether it's the basis for a religion 😈

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                • BigDub
                  BigDub @tjcombo last edited by

                  @tjcombo I simply don’t understand how to do it.

                  GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
                  Assorted other mp's not used
                  ( not very unusual….right? )

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                  • tjcombo
                    tjcombo @BigDub last edited by

                    @BigDub here's where it gets dangerous - my take is that the trumpet is kind of incidental at first. Breathing is a natural thing and we don't hold our breath after inhaling, the air almost falls back out without any physical effort. Greg Spence's take on the circle of breath is that breathing is like a golf swing - you don't hold the club at the top of your back-swing. Inhaling and exhaling is one continuous (no tension) exercise.
                    Another important component is not using your tongue to start a note when getting this whole concept working. I think it was a post from VB that started me working on "breath attack" (attack is almost too strong a word here). It's easier to excite a trumpet into making a noise by releasing an explosion of wind with your tongue, but a lot more factors have to be right to reliably start a note just by breathing into the horn.
                    So circle of breath as it works for me is full, (but not huge, forced) breaths, put the horn gently on your chops and exhale through the mouthpiece at the top of the circle, backswing, whatever you want to call it. Just let the notes flow. It's beautiful thing and it would've been nice to have this advice when I started to learn as an 8 year old.
                    Does that make sense?

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                    • Kehaulani
                      Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                      If rowuk posts here he might disagree with me, but regarding the Circle of Breath explanation, and that it might be too much to process all at once, I would think that some of this information might, in real life, be parsed out over a couple of lessons. Which translates to several weeks. If presented like that it gives more time for it to sink in.

                      The basis for this concept probably can be given as introduction, but unfolding all of the information may take a little time. And for those needing more clarification, I'll bet a teacher will pace himself.

                      Benge 3X
                      Martin Committee
                      Getzen Capri Cornet
                      Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                      "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                      Charlie Parker

                      "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                      Chet Baker

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                      • BigDub
                        BigDub @tjcombo last edited by BigDub

                        @tjcombo I believe it helps, tj.
                        I think I might be subconsciously doing something along those lines and the closer I get to doing it right the better it feels.

                        GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
                        Assorted other mp's not used
                        ( not very unusual….right? )

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                        • Dirk020
                          Dirk020 last edited by

                          Thank you Kehauli for the copy. Really helpful for my students

                          Getzen, Conn, Melody Maker and -too- many Warburton pieces

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                          • Dirk020
                            Dirk020 @tjcombo last edited by

                            @tjcombo said in Did anyone made a copy of "The Circle of Breath":
                            it would've been nice to have this advice when I started to learn as an 8 year old.

                            Does that make sense?

                            Yes, big time

                            Getzen, Conn, Melody Maker and -too- many Warburton pieces

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                            • Three Sevens
                              Three Sevens last edited by

                              Thanks Kehaulani! This is a keeper that I will share.

                              MIke

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                              • ROWUK
                                ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club @Kehaulani last edited by

                                @Kehaulani said in Did anyone made a copy of "The Circle of Breath":

                                If rowuk posts here he might disagree with me, but regarding the Circle of Breath explanation, and that it might be too much to process all at once, I would think that some of this information might, in real life, be parsed out over a couple of lessons. Which translates to several weeks. If presented like that it gives more time for it to sink in.

                                The basis for this concept probably can be given as introduction, but unfolding all of the information may take a little time. And for those needing more clarification, I'll bet a teacher will pace himself.

                                I agree. This is a lifelong process as we are ingenious at creating tension in our bodies. In the beginning it is advantageous to do this as a monitored process by a teacher who practices good playing hygiene.

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                                • JorgePD
                                  JorgePD last edited by

                                  Would working on the circle of breath be part of your warm up?

                                  1947 Buescher 400 Model 225
                                  1957 Olds Ambassador

                                  Trumpet practice drives me crazy, but playing keeps me sane.

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                                  • Vulgano Brother
                                    Vulgano Brother @JorgePD last edited by

                                    This kind of seamless breathing is good for warmup, meditation, and before and after the downbeat.

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                                    • ROWUK
                                      ROWUK Veterans & Military Musicians Western Europe Group Monette Club @JorgePD last edited by

                                      @JorgePD said in Did anyone made a copy of "The Circle of Breath":

                                      Would working on the circle of breath be part of your warm up?

                                      It is the core of everything that I do. If I have time for a warmup, for sure. If not, some other time of the day. We need to stay connected to the needs of our bodies and attitudes.

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                                      • JorgePD
                                        JorgePD @Vulgano Brother last edited by

                                        @Vulgano-Brother

                                        After reading your comment on using it for meditation, I just spent 5 minutes trying it while sitting at my desk at work. I was a bit agitated when I started and it calmed me down. I really needed an attitude adjustment! Thanks!

                                        1947 Buescher 400 Model 225
                                        1957 Olds Ambassador

                                        Trumpet practice drives me crazy, but playing keeps me sane.

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                                        • Kehaulani
                                          Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                          That's what Yogic breathing is all about - to prepare the mind for relaxation and meditation. If you look at it from a different angle, basic Buddhist meditation is concentrating on your breathing. The use of breathing methods can have many goals, but basically, that's it.

                                          Benge 3X
                                          Martin Committee
                                          Getzen Capri Cornet
                                          Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                          "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                          Charlie Parker

                                          "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                          Chet Baker

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                                          • JorgePD
                                            JorgePD last edited by

                                            So based on what I’m reading here, the Circle of Breath is more than just a breathing exercise. It also helps to relax the body and mind, which prepares us to be more effective when playing the trumpet. Is that correct?

                                            1947 Buescher 400 Model 225
                                            1957 Olds Ambassador

                                            Trumpet practice drives me crazy, but playing keeps me sane.

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