Schilke Club?

Lawler Bb

Anyone a fan of Schilke trumpets? How about a Schilke Club? I play the S32 and S42HD.

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@Lawler-Bb said in Schilke Club?:

Anyone a fan of Schilke trumpets? How about a Schilke Club? I play the S32 and S42HD.

Fantastic instruments!

y-o-y

I’ve played an X3 as my main horn on and off since 1995.

Lawler Bb

Good friend of mine sounds great on his X3. I used to have a Yamaha 738 a long time ago (Schilke X3 clone). Great fun. Should have never sold it.

Vulgano Brother

Have a B6 with an ancient Monette leadpipe, a ring on the first valve slide, and Curry lightweight finger buttons and I like it a lot. My E3 is "meh."

I second the idea of a Schilke Club-my Handcraft HC1 is a wonderful horn

Zman

Also played several Schilkes. My personal preference are the early serial numbers. I am genuinely surprised they don't command better prices in the secondary market.

oldpete

I'm already 'in the club' I use the C7 and A6.

Lawler Bb

@Zman You would think the early ones would have a similar demand as Mt. Vernon (and earlier) Bach trumpets. There may be a little bit going on with the early Beryllium bell horns, but that’s it.

Tobylou8

@Lawler-Bb I've looked for used Schilke horns and they are few and very far between. Their owners don't turn them loose often, and when they do, they are beyond my budget.

Robrtx

I mostly play an S42 and also own a B1.

I love Schilke for their quality and diversity.

Kehaulani

I had a Schilke B7 and I was very happy with it. Sold it, simply, to get money to explore other brands. Nothing negative about it.

I am against a Schilke-specific sub-forum. I don't like a plethora of sub-forums unless there's a good reason to do so. Remember, if you have a Schilke sub-forum, you'll need one for Conns, Martins, Getzens, you name it. A virtual plethora. IMO, it would needlessly complicate the organization of the forum.

N0isemaker

I play a B5, my go to trumpet.
Larry

Zman

@Lawler-Bb Yeah, that's what I don't get. They are well regarded, play excellent and have good reliability. I had a fantastic early B2 that I should have held onto. I only sold it as it played too well in tune (yep, that's a thing). Same could also apply to the early Schilke mouthpieces - you don't see those going for crazy money yet either.

Lawler Bb

@Zman Tell me about the B2. I have an early S32 and really like it, but I'm intrigued by the B2. I'm going to sell my other Schilke and would like to find something comparable (Schilke) to the S32, but a little brighter/aggressive would be great.

trickg

I think that Schilkes are some of the best designed, well made horns out there. There was a time when I thought I would be a Schilke man for good, but things and times change, and I wound up going another direction with my most recent horn acquisition. With that said, I'm still not opposed to the idea of going with an S32 some day as a good all-around horn.

The "problem" that the B models run into, IMO, is that they have a somewhat different scale than your typical trumpet design, i.e., Bach, Yamaha, etc, so that if you are playing in an ensemble with other people playing Bachs and Yamahas, sometimes you run into intonation issues because of it. The tragedy is, Schilkes seem to be inherently much more in tune with themselves. Although there were some things about my B6 that I didn't really like, when I was playing with the rock band and wasn't trying to match another trumpet player, I always appreciated the intonation characteristics of that horn.

Lawler Bb

@trickg Interesting. I guess I never noticed that, but I've only played a couple of B series in music stores, while I own a custom S42HD-F and a S32. The different scale of the B series isn't as pronounced as the Benge scale, is it? I love the Benge sound but I really don't get along with the scale and intonation of Benge trumpets.

trickg

@Lawler-Bb said in Schilke Club?:

@trickg Interesting. I guess I never noticed that, but I've only played a couple of B series in music stores, while I own a custom S42HD-F and a S32. The different scale of the B series isn't as pronounced as the Benge scale, is it? I love the Benge sound but I really don't get along with the scale and intonation of Benge trumpets.

It's pronounced enough that when I moved from a Bach to my Schilke B6, I had horrible intonation problems at first - the reason why was because my approach to playing on a Bach was so ingrained, I was automatically pushing notes up or down, depending where they sat on the Bach. It took me between 6-8 weeks to fully assimilate to the Schilke, but once I did, my intonation was markedly better than it was on the Bach because the notes on the Schilke are naturally more in tune, and even for notes that you have to adjust, you don't have to adjust them as far. Low D, for instance, barely required much of a throw of the 3rd valve slide, but surprisingly, low E rode fairly sharp, to the point where I'd thrown the 1st valve slide.

I had a similar issue when I switched to the Jupiter 1600i from the Schilke. Both times I thought I'd made a costly mistake, but eventually I assimilated. My intonation is not quite as clear on the Jupiter, but what it lacks in intonation it more than makes up for with secure slotting.

fels

I played on an Olds Recording in high school - it was stolen when i was in college. Replaced with a Selmer Paris. Added a Bach Strad 37. Then added a Schilke X3.

I continue with the X3 - I have rotated the Bach into the Quintet i play in- but the the consensus is that the X3 fits better. I also use it in the symphonic community band and as lead in the community jazz big band. It has quirks, but .. they all do.

I am not a "club" person, but I would love to have a forum to read and discuss the idiosyncracies of Schilke product.

Jolter

I borrowed a friend's B7L (tunable beryllium bell) for a few weeks.
A very nice, no-compromise instrument.
It worked splendidly in big band section!
I also noticed the intonation was a bit different from what I'm used to, but all for the better. That particular horn slotted a little looser than both my Xeno and my F.Besson (Kanstul) which was very enjoyable.
The extremely lightweight bell might have been little much, though. I was afraid to stick a mute in there too hard...