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    • Anthony Lenzo
      Anthony Lenzo last edited by

      I am moving next week from Houston Texas to Youngstown Ohio ..Driving with my Wife , my little yorkie dog Max in front seat of course and 5 of my horns in my car trunk .3 trumpets 2 cornets .So I was concerned about cold weather .Can very cold weather do some damage to the horns.They are all in hard cases .Thank you Anthony

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        Gendreauj last edited by

        Have no problems with my horns in the cold Midwest. I live in Metro Detroit.

        Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
        Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
        Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
        Mendini Tenor sax
        Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
        Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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        • J. Jericho
          J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

          I'd be more concerned about theft than freezing; local thieves are attracted to cars with out-of-state license tags. Marching bands perform in sub-freezing weather, so having brass instruments in cold storage shouldn't be a problem. If you're still concerned, many sedans have a pass-thru to the trunk; see if you can use that to allow at least a few molecules of warm air access to its contents. An extreme precaution would be to have the horns in the cabin, and put your wife in the trunk. This might cool your relationship with her, however.

          '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
          '67 Olds Special Trumpet
          2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
          '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
          1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
          '50 Olds Studio Trombone
          Shofar

          "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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          • Dr GO
            Dr GO last edited by Dr GO

            It's not the cold that gets you, but rather the lake effect snow. I lived in that region 6 years. Now in Dayton Ohio with my 3 Schnauzers. Work, not whether took to Southern Ohio. I loved the years I lived in Northern Ohio.

            The metal will contract in the cold, but keep warm breathe in the horn or have Max cuddle up to it and all should be fine.

            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
            Harrelson Summit 2017
            Kanstul 1526 2012
            Getzen Power Bore 1961
            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
            Martin Committee 1946
            Olds Super Recording 1940
            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
            Olds Ambassador 1965

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            • Anthony Lenzo
              Anthony Lenzo @Dr GO last edited by

              @Dr-GO thank you does Youngstown Ohio get a lot of snow ...I was originally from Brooklyn we always got hit with snow.thanks for your info.

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              • Anthony Lenzo
                Anthony Lenzo @J. Jericho last edited by

                @J-Jericho my wife might get angry if I put her in the trunk lol

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                • Dale Proctor
                  Dale Proctor last edited by

                  About the only thing the cold affects is the viscosity of the valve oil and slide grease. The valves and slides may be a little sluggish till the horn warms up. If there’s any moisture in the horn, it could freeze, but I wouldn’t think there would be enough of it to damage anything.

                  1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                  1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                  1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                  1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                  1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                  1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                  1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                  1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                  • Anthony Lenzo
                    Anthony Lenzo @Dale Proctor last edited by

                    @Dale-Proctor thanks Dale

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                    • barliman2001
                      barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

                      Cold is of no importance when transporting instruments - only when playing...
                      I remember one Christmas gig in Austria, with temperatures nicely below zero for several weeks... and then we were supposed to play a Christmas service in a church that rarely if ever is used (secondary Catholic church lent to Protestants on occasion). When we arrived through about one foot of snow, the caretaker informed us that he "had switched the heating on ten minutes ago".... in a frozen-through Baroque church!!

                      We were seven - two trumpets, one flugelhorn, one French horn, one baritone, one trombone and a 5/4 Kaiser tuba... when tuning at the beginning, everything was fine. But with having to wait in between pieces for the service to continue... intonation went haywire, and we ended up being more or less halt a tone apart...
                      horrible... and in the final piece, the rotary valves of the tuba and the french horn suddenly froze... luckily, we were seated near the door and were able to escape with our lives before the service ended...

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                      Olds Recording
                      Buescher Aristocrat
                      Gaudet C
                      Selmer G
                      Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                      Besson International Bb cornet
                      Courtois Bb cornet
                      B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                      B&H Sovereign trombone
                      Willy Garreis trombone
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                      • administrator
                        administrator Global Moderator last edited by administrator

                        Cold, hot, humid, dry...this will make exactly 0.0001% of a difference to your horns....in the short-term. If you are moving to a very humid climate (think, Florida), you may want to consider storing your trumpets in a relativity dry area. Eventually (after a long period of time), the leadpipe can start to wear (red-rot). However, these things are literally brass pipes. What could possibly happen?

                        Regular maintenance will nullify any climatic effects. However, playing is a different story. Cold & hot make a tremendous difference on intonation.

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                          LegendaryConnMan @Dale Proctor last edited by

                          @Dale-Proctor Yeah, I took a trumpet up in the mountains once on a winter ski trip, and the horn had been in the car's truck in below zero temperatures. When I brought it inside my ski cabin to practice on it, the valves were completely frozen, as it was apparently cold enough to freeze the valve oil. But after the horn warmed up, helped with blowing slow, warm air through it, it was fine, and the valves were moving again. (Was no longer limited to playing just bugle calls!)

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                          • Anthony Lenzo
                            Anthony Lenzo @LegendaryConnMan last edited by

                            @LegendaryConnMan. Bugle calls lol that's funny lol

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                            • Dr GO
                              Dr GO last edited by

                              A poem I just found that puts into perspective, Ohio in the winter:

                              A WINTER POEM

                              It's winter in OHIO
                              And the gentle breezes blow
                              Seventy miles an hour
                              At five below.
                              Oh, how I love OHIO
                              When the snow's up to your butt
                              You take a breath of winter
                              And your nose gets frozen shut.
                              Yes,
                              The weather here is wonderful
                              So I guess I'll hang around
                              I could never leave OHIO
                              Cuz I'm frozen to the ground!

                              Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                              Harrelson Summit 2017
                              Kanstul 1526 2012
                              Getzen Power Bore 1961
                              Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                              Martin Committee 1946
                              Olds Super Recording 1940
                              Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                              Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                              Olds Ambassador 1965

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