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    • Anthony Lenzo
      Anthony Lenzo last edited by

      Is it possible to replace a cork on a trumpet water key , without removing the water key..what I mean is just taking the old cork out and putting in a new one. Thank you Anthony

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        Gendreauj @Anthony Lenzo last edited by

        Yes I have done it on many horns. The rubber corks fit better and have a tighter seal. Not sure if the corks are a standard size on all horns.

        Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
        Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
        Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
        Mendini Tenor sax
        Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
        Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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        • Anthony Lenzo
          Anthony Lenzo @Gendreauj last edited by

          @Gendreauj Yes thank you and this just taking the old one out and putting in a new one.Thank you for your reply.Anthony

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          • Dale Proctor
            Dale Proctor last edited by

            Yes, it’s not very difficult to do. I just replaced one that way this week.

            1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
            1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
            1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
            1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
            1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
            1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
            1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
            1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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            • Anthony Lenzo
              Anthony Lenzo @Dale Proctor last edited by

              @Dale-Proctor Did you just change the cork and not the whole key assembly ?

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              • Dale Proctor
                Dale Proctor @Anthony Lenzo last edited by

                @Anthony-Lenzo

                Yes. I held the water key open with one hand and popped the old cork out with a mini screwdriver. Held it open again and slid the new cork in. Here are two I did a few weeks ago.

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                1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                • Anthony Lenzo
                  Anthony Lenzo @Dale Proctor last edited by

                  @Dale-Proctor Great thank you so much.

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                  • Anthony Lenzo
                    Anthony Lenzo @Anthony Lenzo last edited by

                    @Anthony-Lenzo sorry for all the questions about corks but did you have remove left over cork or glue and did you have to glue the new corks in or just push them in? Thanks again.

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                      Gendreauj @Anthony Lenzo last edited by Gendreauj

                      Take out all the old pieces. Use isopropyl alcohol to wash it out. Let dry.
                      Should fit in without using glue. Drop it in and use it.
                      Do think rubber works better.

                      Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                      Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                      Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                      Mendini Tenor sax
                      Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                      Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                      • Anthony Lenzo
                        Anthony Lenzo @Gendreauj last edited by

                        @Gendreauj thank you so much.

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                          Gendreauj @Anthony Lenzo last edited by

                          Your welcome.
                          Maybe a diluted isopropyl alcohol solution in a spray bottle.

                          Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                          Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                          Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                          Mendini Tenor sax
                          Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                          Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                          • Anthony Lenzo
                            Anthony Lenzo @Gendreauj last edited by

                            @Gendreauj you mentioned rubber as a substitute for cork isn't cork better ?

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                            • Dale Proctor
                              Dale Proctor @Anthony Lenzo last edited by Dale Proctor

                              @Anthony-Lenzo

                              In my opinion, rubber is good if the water key and nib are in really good alignment when the key is closed. If they’re a little out of alignment, cork will deform a bit to seal better.

                              1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                              1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                              1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                              1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                              1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                              1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                              1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                              1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                                Gendreauj @Dale Proctor last edited by Gendreauj

                                @Dale-Proctor
                                Great answer.

                                Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                                Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                                Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                                Mendini Tenor sax
                                Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                                Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                                • barliman2001
                                  barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by barliman2001

                                  Thomann are offering different sizes of waterkey corks as well as different thicknesses of cork sheet to cut your corks out of.
                                  https://www.thomann.co.uk/search_dir.html?__cTr=7bedffb2-1e7f-45de-be1e-2790c2f1c4c7&shp=eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoiZ2IiLCJjdXJyZW5jeSI6NCwibGFuZ3VhZ2UiOjJ9&reload=1&sw=cork&smcs=a935ee_13621

                                  Courtois Balanced
                                  Courtois D
                                  Olds Recording
                                  Buescher Aristocrat
                                  Gaudet C
                                  Selmer G
                                  Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                                  Besson International Bb cornet
                                  Courtois Bb cornet
                                  B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                                  B&H Sovereign trombone
                                  Willy Garreis trombone
                                  Weltklang Euph

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                                    Trumpetb last edited by

                                    I dont see what the fuss is.

                                    I made a waterkey cork out of a used wine bottle cork. It worked fine and lasted years.

                                    Most people have corks they throw out in the trash wine bars cant get rid of enough of em.

                                    Many wine corks have a very suitable portion at the end made up of very fine grain cork and its this portion that we can attack with a craft knife.

                                    You can make 4 water key corks out of one wine bottle cork.

                                    If you cant find the right cork first time there will probably be around 1000 others in their wine cork bin you can select from in most wine bars.

                                    Trim it slightly oversize and friction will keep it in place.

                                    5 minutes work zero cost.

                                    The only problem is making it out the door without sampling their wine.

                                    Trumpets
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                                    Besson New Creation Large Bore 1948
                                    Besson New Creation Medium Bore Modele Francaise 1948
                                    Olds Ambassador LA model 1948
                                    Selmer Invicta with french rim
                                    Cornets
                                    Conn 80A 1953
                                    Conn 80A 1965
                                    Yamaha 2330

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                                    • J. Jericho
                                      J. Jericho Global Moderator @Trumpetb last edited by

                                      @Trumpetb

                                      The only problem is making it out the door without sampling their wine.

                                      That's a problem?!?

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                                      2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                                      '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                                      1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
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                                      • Dr GO
                                        Dr GO @Trumpetb last edited by

                                        @Trumpetb said in Replacing cork on trumpet:

                                        I made a waterkey cork out of a used wine bottle cork. It worked fine and lasted years.

                                        So red wine bottle cork for brass trumpet... White wine bottle cork for silver trumpet?

                                        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                                        Harrelson Summit 2017
                                        Kanstul 1526 2012
                                        Getzen Power Bore 1961
                                        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                                        Martin Committee 1946
                                        Olds Super Recording 1940
                                        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                                        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                                        Olds Ambassador 1965

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                                        • Dr GO
                                          Dr GO @Trumpetb last edited by

                                          @Trumpetb said in Replacing cork on trumpet:

                                          You can make 4 water key corks out of one wine bottle cork.

                                          5 minutes work zero cost.

                                          Not 0 cost if you purchase a $12 bottle of wine... hum, could use the wine purchase as a business expense under musical instrument parts.

                                          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                                          Harrelson Summit 2017
                                          Kanstul 1526 2012
                                          Getzen Power Bore 1961
                                          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                                          Martin Committee 1946
                                          Olds Super Recording 1940
                                          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                                          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                                          Olds Ambassador 1965

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                                          • barliman2001
                                            barliman2001 Global Moderator @Dr GO last edited by

                                            @Dr-GO Red wine cork for rose brass, white wine cork for silver plated instruments... chips of plastic champagne corks for Chinese-made TSOs... 😁

                                            Courtois Balanced
                                            Courtois D
                                            Olds Recording
                                            Buescher Aristocrat
                                            Gaudet C
                                            Selmer G
                                            Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                                            Besson International Bb cornet
                                            Courtois Bb cornet
                                            B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                                            B&H Sovereign trombone
                                            Willy Garreis trombone
                                            Weltklang Euph

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