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    • Alex Otis
      Alex Otis last edited by

      Please help with identifying this trumpet. Any info is greatly appreciated.Screenshot_20241020-205206_eBay.jpg
      Thank you,Screenshot_20241020-205215_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20241020-205225_eBay.jpg Screenshot_20241020-205235_eBay.jpg

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      • Shifty
        Shifty @Alex Otis last edited by

        @Alex-Otis
        I'm not an expert, but it sure resembles the Conn 22b New York Symphony circa 1920s. Here's a link to the Conn Loyalist, and a sample picture from trumpet-history.com:

        https://cderksen.home.xs4all.nl/Conn22B1924image.html

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        Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
        Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
        ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

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        • Dale Proctor
          Dale Proctor last edited by Dale Proctor

          Yes, looks like a Conn 22B (or a different bore Conn variant) to me too. This is the 1929 Conn 22B I used to own.

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          1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
          1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
          1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
          1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
          1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
          1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
          1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
          1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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          • administrator
            administrator Global Moderator last edited by

            It looks like a Conn 22B. Note, however, that the case says 1000B. So, I don't know.

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            • Dale Proctor
              Dale Proctor @administrator last edited by

              @administrator said in Please help:

              It looks like a Conn 22B. Note, however, that the case says 1000B. So, I don't know.

              I’m sure that’s not a 1000B trumpet, which was a 1970s or 1980s “Doc Severinsen” student model. I suppose it was just a case procured to replace the nasty original one.

              1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
              1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
              1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
              1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
              1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
              1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
              1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
              1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                robertwerntz last edited by

                Whats up with the upside-down water key in foto #1?

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                • Dale Proctor
                  Dale Proctor @robertwerntz last edited by

                  @robertwerntz said in Please help:

                  Whats up with the upside-down water key in foto #1?

                  Tuning slide is in upside down…lol

                  1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                  1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                  1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                  1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                  1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                  1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                  1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                  1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                    LegendaryConnMan @Alex Otis last edited by

                    @Alex-Otis This is definitely a gold-plated 1929 Conn 22B (New York Symphony model.) It's a great horn, IF the valves are still in good condition, and if the compression is also still good. I can tell the year by the serial number (and, before I looked up the serial number, I knew that it had to be from either 1928 or 1929 because the 22B trumpets made before that in the '20s did not have a right hand pinky ring. The fact that it is gold-plated, along with the fancy Stenberg engraving that goes all the way up the bell flare tells me that this was a "top-of-the line" model, and the original owner paid extra for those optional upgrades. Underneath the gold-plated bell is standard yellow brass, which sounds great (for most people's tastes, at least.) It has a 0.438" bore, also known as the Conn #1 bore. This is a very versatile horn, and makes a great lead trumpet or commercial trumpet, but it also works well in symphony orchestras, concert bands, chamber music, etc. Using a "lead trumpet mouthpiece" on it will brighten the sound up nicely, and will make it even more efficient (a GREAT lead horn.) And, a "legit" or "symphonic" mouthpiece (one that is deeper, with a more symphonic backbore, etc.) easily turns it into a great symphony/classical/legit horn, as the name "New York Symphony" implies. These instruments were used in all of the major symphony orchestras in the United states up until maybe about 1950 (?) or so, when Bach trumpets began to gain favor with most orchestra players. But, this instrument can blend very well and fit into a trumpet section in which the other trumpet players are using Bach or Yamaha symphony model trumpets.

                    By the way, don't let the model number on the case fool you: This is not the original case, and is a Conn trumpet case made many decades later. The original case was probably either broken or got lost, thus the newer Conn case replacement.

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                      Trumpetb last edited by

                      Word to the wise

                      On a conn of this quality and this age I would pay attention to protecting the lead pipe from red rot.

                      I dont think this instrument is suffering from this ailment at the moment but conns are susceptible to it.

                      Regularly running oil down the leadpipe and regular cleaning and maintenance of this part of the instrument should keep this instrument in tip top condition and playing wonderfully for many decades to come.

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                      Besson New creation 1924
                      Besson New Creation Large Bore 1948
                      Besson New Creation Medium Bore Modele Francaise 1948
                      Olds Ambassador LA model 1948
                      Selmer Invicta with french rim
                      Cornets
                      Conn 80A 1953
                      Conn 80A 1965
                      Yamaha 2330

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                      • Anthony Lenzo
                        Anthony Lenzo @Trumpetb last edited by

                        @Trumpetb said in Please help:

                        Word to the wise

                        On a conn of this quality and this age I would pay attention to protecting the lead pipe from red rot.

                        I dont think this instrument is suffering from this ailment at the moment but conns are susceptible to it.

                        Regularly running oil down the leadpipe and regular cleaning and maintenance of this part of the instrument should keep this instrument in tip top condition and playing wonderfully for many decades to come.

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