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    • barliman2001
      barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

      As a few people here already know, Vienna now has a proper British brass band, under the name of Pfadfinderfanfare Wien (Scouts' Band Vienna), and I've been honoured with the flugelhorn position. So far, I've been using my own Courtois 154R flugel, but last rehearsal, the conductor approached me and told me that the band had several world-class flugels lying around and he would like me to use one of theirs... I agreed - no problem with playing a good flugel and thus aving playing time on my own.
      Yesterday was The Day. He brought along what he described as "the best flugel the band has, and one of the best flugels ever made."
      I was expecting something really, really special... what be brought out was an old and slightly decrepit Bach Strad 135... serial number 423 xxx, dating it into 1994.
      Following orders, I played the first two pieces on this, ... until the conductor exclaimed, "Your own flugel is obviously much better than this, and you certainly know how to get the best out of it... I'll take back the Bach."
      Inviting comments.

      Courtois Balanced
      Courtois D
      Olds Recording
      Buescher Aristocrat
      Gaudet C
      Selmer G
      Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
      Besson International Bb cornet
      Courtois Bb cornet
      B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
      B&H Sovereign trombone
      Willy Garreis trombone
      Weltklang Euph

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        Trumpetb last edited by Trumpetb

        I deeply suspect that your conductor had no idea of your quality and that of your daily driver instrument.

        Flugels I am led to believe can be somewhat skittish and variable. I must admit somewhat shamefully that I have never played on one.

        Just having the name Bach or strad on an instrument is not an absolute guarantee of quality and beauty of tone even though the strad 135 is well respected, especially if the instrument is the worst for wear and has suffered a hard life.

        It seems to me that if he knew about flugels he would have recognised your courtois 154r as one of the very best you can play. (going by reputation here).

        I like that he reversed his decision when faced with the truth.

        Trumpets
        Besson New creation 1924
        Besson New Creation Large Bore 1948
        Besson New Creation Medium Bore Modele Francaise 1948
        Olds Ambassador LA model 1948
        Selmer Invicta with french rim
        Cornets
        Conn 80A 1953
        Conn 80A 1965
        Yamaha 2330

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        • GeorgeB
          GeorgeB @barliman2001 last edited by

          @barliman2001
          I am happy that the conductor recognized that you already had the better horn. And congratulations for winning that position with the band. Way to go !
          George

          1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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          • Dr GO
            Dr GO last edited by

            The performer (epically one as accomplished as you sir) know their horns best. However, perhaps Barliman, you may recommend a better baton for the conductor to use.

            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
            Harrelson Summit 2017
            Kanstul 1526 2012
            Getzen Power Bore 1961
            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
            Martin Committee 1946
            Olds Super Recording 1940
            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
            Olds Ambassador 1965

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            • barliman2001
              barliman2001 Global Moderator @Dr GO last edited by

              @dr-go Well, the conductor is new to his role. He was an accomplished professional trumpet player for more than thirty years and a European Bach Strad signature artist, so a certain bias towards that company is understandable. By his own admission, he has never played a French trumpet or flugel in his life... ok, I think I'll sit down with him and have him test my selection of French instruments...

              Courtois Balanced
              Courtois D
              Olds Recording
              Buescher Aristocrat
              Gaudet C
              Selmer G
              Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
              Besson International Bb cornet
              Courtois Bb cornet
              B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
              B&H Sovereign trombone
              Willy Garreis trombone
              Weltklang Euph

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              • Kehaulani
                Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                If you really want to be authentic, you'll make sure he also knows the French school of tonguing.

                Benge 3X
                Martin Committee
                Getzen Capri Cornet
                Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

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                Chet Baker

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