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    • Newell Post
      Newell Post last edited by Newell Post

      OK, so next September, I need to make a trip that will have me away from home for 3 weeks. Part of the time will be in France, so it means lots of planes, trains, and automobiles. I always travel light, and I don't want to haul around more than the minimum. What I really want is a plastic pocket trumpet about the size of the Carol Brass mini trumpet just to use for embouchure exercise.
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      I have an inexpensive pocket trumpet (Dillon), but it is still a little larger and heavier than ideal. I also have a plastic cornet (Tromba). It is lighter, but still larger than ideal to stuff in a suitcase. (And the valves are horrible.) I know about buzzing and various exercisers, but a horn I can actually play always works better for me. I don't care about what it sounds like, I just want embouchure exercise.

      Has anybody ever seen a very small plastic pocket trumpet (just for travel) that takes a standard mouthpiece?

      Thanks.

      Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
      Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
      C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
      D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
      Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
      Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
      Conch shell in F

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      • barliman2001
        barliman2001 Global Moderator @Newell Post last edited by

        @newell-post Stay away from the plastic stuff. I had one - offered by Thomann - for exactly that purpose. After three days, the bell was broken in half and the valves did not work any more, so the original purpose was defeated. Practice mutes did not stick... horrible.
        Since then, I acquired an Arnold & Sons cheapo pocket trumpet (clone of the original small-bell Jupiter) for less than 200 bucks. Quite playable, even has a nice sound. All the usual practice mutes fit and keep in; and it comes in a sturdy, small and light case that every airline will accept as additional cabin baggage (it's about the size of a small ladies' handbag and has not only a shoulder strap, but backpack straps as well.) Great thing. And you can have it in about ten different colours, which means that if you happen onto a jam session, you can participate and draw all the girls' glances...

        Courtois Balanced
        Courtois D
        Olds Recording
        Buescher Aristocrat
        Gaudet C
        Selmer G
        Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
        Besson International Bb cornet
        Courtois Bb cornet
        B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
        B&H Sovereign trombone
        Willy Garreis trombone
        Weltklang Euph

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        • barliman2001
          barliman2001 Global Moderator @barliman2001 last edited by barliman2001

          @barliman2001 Thomann have discontinued the plastic pocket trumpet. They are now offering that Arnold & Sons as a stencil under their own brand name: https://www.thomann.de/de/thomann_tr5_red_bbtaschentrompete.htm
          It's a set including case, mouthpiece (not a bad 7C), valve oil, cleaning cloth and - of course - a pair of white gloves!!
          Even though it comes with the gloves, it is about the most playable pocket trumpet in the cheapest and most travel-friendly package - and I've had a few, starting from the first Jupiter pockets about 30 years ago via two different Roy Benson PTSOs (pocket trumpet shaped objects), a Stomvi Forte (the best sounding so far, but rather big for a pocket trumpet, and an unconscionably big case)

          Courtois Balanced
          Courtois D
          Olds Recording
          Buescher Aristocrat
          Gaudet C
          Selmer G
          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
          Besson International Bb cornet
          Courtois Bb cornet
          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
          B&H Sovereign trombone
          Willy Garreis trombone
          Weltklang Euph

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          • Kehaulani
            Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by Kehaulani

            I won't address this generally, but just give you my experience.

            I traveled from U.S. to Germany and back, and traveled around within Germany, with a Carol Brass pocket trumpet.

            Carol Brass makes a pocket trumpet with a normal-sized bell so your mutes should fit it. I only took a Yamaha Silent Mute, which fits flush with the bell so I didn't need any extra space for it.

            The taking up of space and the extra weight were negligeable. I put the horn, without a case, in my suitcase. It was well insulated and saved you the extra annoyance of carrying another piece of luggage around.

            BTW, with the Carol, I never felt this was a compromise instrument, like using a plastic instrument, for example. It sounds and plays just fine on its own.

            Benge 3X
            Martin Committee
            Getzen Capri Cornet
            Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

            "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
            Charlie Parker

            "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
            Chet Baker

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            • J. Jericho
              J. Jericho Global Moderator @barliman2001 last edited by

              @barliman2001 Other than the color, the Thomann looks exactly like a Dillon. I think it's from the same Chinese manufacturer. When I travel, my Dillon case fits inside my carry-on luggage, along with a small practice mute, my laptop, and miscellaneous other things. The combination is not light, thanks to the laptop, but it is compact.

              The only thing smaller than a pocket trumpet is a hose trumpet, but intonation suffers, you have no valves to practice with, and no matter how much the hose is cleaned, mold seems to love the environment inside.

              '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
              '67 Olds Special Trumpet
              2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
              '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
              1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
              '50 Olds Studio Trombone
              Shofar

              "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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              • Dr GO
                Dr GO last edited by

                I got my Allora pocket trumpet for travel ease AND cost in case it was lost, or in my case, confiscated as I was taking it to Saudi Arabia at a time when music was outlawed. I was astonished how light it was! Made out of light weight black lacquered nickel. I still play it today as a novelty horn when backing up women singers as for some reason, the ladies 🚺 really love it.

                Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                Harrelson Summit 2017
                Kanstul 1526 2012
                Getzen Power Bore 1961
                Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                Martin Committee 1946
                Olds Super Recording 1940
                Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                Olds Ambassador 1965

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                • Dr GO
                  Dr GO @J. Jericho last edited by Dr GO

                  @j-jericho said in Travel Trumpet:

                  @barliman2001 ...no matter how much the hose is cleaned, mold seems to love the environment...

                  Yeah, the ladies 🚺 go for my hose as well! Cause I'm a fungi!

                  Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                  Harrelson Summit 2017
                  Kanstul 1526 2012
                  Getzen Power Bore 1961
                  Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                  Martin Committee 1946
                  Olds Super Recording 1940
                  Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                  Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                  Olds Ambassador 1965

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                  • Kehaulani
                    Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                    Does a Hose Trumpet, fit any practice mute? 👿

                    Benge 3X
                    Martin Committee
                    Getzen Capri Cornet
                    Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                    "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                    Charlie Parker

                    "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                    Chet Baker

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                    • administrator
                      administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                      I remember being VERY impressed with CarolBrass pocket trumpets. They played very similar to a full-size Bb and were not squirrely at all. I recommend CarolBrass, they are a great value and quality instruments.

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                      • Newell Post
                        Newell Post last edited by

                        Thanks, all. Yeah, I usually travel with my Dillon pocket trumpet wrapped up in a towel and stuffed into the suitcase. I have a mini practice mute that fits the small bell and works well. It's all, well, sort of OK, but could be better.

                        Anybody have any experience with the Carol mini trumpet? It looks a little smaller than the pocket.

                        Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                        Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                        C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                        D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                        Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                        Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                        Conch shell in F

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                        • Newell Post
                          Newell Post last edited by

                          And the answer is..... (Well, maybe it's the answer. I'll let you know after the trip.) ..... the Carol Brass mini trumpet. See pictures below next to the Dillon pocket trumpet. The Carol is slightly smaller and the case it fits in is much smaller than the Dillon. The Carol should fit in my suitcase much better. It also came with this larger bell adapter thing. It looks weird, but it really does help with the tone, especially in combination with a larger mouthpiece (1.5C). That combination sounds almost normal, although the intonation is off more than a normal trumpet, especially in the notes below middle C, for some reason.
                          2-pockets.jpg
                          mini.jpg

                          Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                          Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                          C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                          D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                          Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                          Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                          Conch shell in F

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                          • Newell Post
                            Newell Post last edited by

                            The fit and finish of the Carol is excellent, BTW. The valves are very smooth and the slides are just right. The third slide that should move smoothly does and the others are not too loose.

                            Bb: Bach 180S37G (05), Mercedes (80)
                            Vintage: Committee (54), Recording (59), Super (49), Getzen Severinsen (66)
                            C: Kanstul 1510, Constellation
                            D/Eb: Getzen Eterna
                            Cornet: Schilke XA1, Yamaha Neo Eb
                            Flugel: Kanstul 1525, Yamaha 625
                            Conch shell in F

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                            • administrator
                              administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                              Good choice.

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                              • J. Jericho
                                J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

                                That bell adapter is an interesting touch.

                                '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                                '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                                2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                                '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                                1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                                '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                                Shofar

                                "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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