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      Gendreauj last edited by

      Decided to become a comeback player on tenor sax. Any thoughts or information on playing both instruments??!

      Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
      Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
      Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
      Mendini Tenor sax
      Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
      Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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        robertwerntz last edited by

        I found that Alto was an easier switch I prefer the sound of Tenor but you can use your muscle memories with the first three fingers of the right hand on Alto with some early success - have fun!

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          Gendreauj @robertwerntz last edited by

          @robertwerntz
          I soon will have both to compare.

          Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
          Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
          Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
          Mendini Tenor sax
          Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
          Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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            Kehaulani 0 last edited by

            I played Saxes professionally for about two decades. I think you might have more sucess, if you're going to play trumpet and sax if, at least in the geginnings, if you play Trumpet first and then Sax. I think that sequence is a little easier on the chops.

            I disagree that Alto is easier to play than Tenor. I played Soprano, Alto and Tenor. I would say that the higher you go in saxes, the more muscle power you need in your embouchure. Another diference is in hearing the tones in the horns' respective ranges.

            Have you settled on a Sax? If not, you can get a lor of help at Sax on the Web (https://www.saxontheweb.net/).

            Yamaha Bobby Shew Trumpet
            Benge Cornet
            Akai EWI 5000 Pro

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              Gendreauj @Kehaulani 0 last edited by

              @Kehaulani-0
              Thanks for your reply and advice. I do enjoy reading your posts on this forum and TH.
              I bought a black colored Mendini tenor sax made in China. Should receive by Friday.
              Since my cornets were made in the same factory in China decided to sell the ACB silver doubler cornet. More chance of getting a better price than the Schiller cornet.

              Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
              Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
              Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
              Mendini Tenor sax
              Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
              Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                Kehaulani 0 last edited by

                Good luck with the Mendini. A lot of those Chinese woodwinds are good at first then start falling out of adjustment after a while and then begin a frustrating thing of never-ending adjustments. Keep an eye on that and maybe you'll have some luck with it.

                Also, when you start playing, know that reeds can be frustrating and, what may seem difficult to get a sound out, may just be that your reed is too stiff. Conversely, if your reed is too soft, you may have trouble with high notes.

                Yamaha Bobby Shew Trumpet
                Benge Cornet
                Akai EWI 5000 Pro

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                  Gendreauj @Kehaulani 0 last edited by

                  @Kehaulani-0
                  Thanks for advice. Played a Martin tenor sax for almost two years.
                  When I get my chops back I will buy a better tenor sax.
                  Have two sax coming in this week, Mendini tenor sax and King 613 alto sax.
                  I have ordered a Legere American cut Alto 2.5 synthetic reed and Legere American cut tenor synthetic reed
                  Have tried many natural reeds but prefer synthetic reeds.
                  As a hobbyist player I am happy with the current setup with my cornet.
                  Will see this week if I will be happy with the sax.

                  Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                  Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                  Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                  Mendini Tenor sax
                  Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                  Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                    administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                    I used to be super anti buying cheap knockoff instruments. However, if it gets you playing (vs not playing at all) it's probably acceptable. I've been impressed with some of the knockoff instruments. They can be better than expected at times.

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                      administrator Global Moderator last edited by

                      I suppose I'm just trying to cope with the fact that I spent over $5k on one trumpet!!

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                        Gendreauj @administrator last edited by Gendreauj

                        @administrator
                        I am tired of older used equipment that need repair.
                        Whether it works out or not we will see.
                        In the past spent to much money on cornets, trumpet, saxes, lessons and repairs.
                        Trying to limit buying more instruments , mouthpieces etc.
                        Just want to enjoy playing.

                        Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                        Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                        Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                        Mendini Tenor sax
                        Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                        Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                        • barliman2001
                          barliman2001 Global Moderator @administrator last edited by

                          @administrator
                          Whoa!
                          You should try a different approach - mine.
                          Got my Courtois flugelhorn as a factory surplus - free.
                          Inherited

                          • my B&H Sovereign trombone
                          • my Selmer G picc

                          found my Garreis trombone in an ntique shop for a hundred quid
                          found my latest cornet (Besson Bb/A) in a pawn shop, for less than $100...
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                          Got this nice and wonderfully decorated Conn International off e-bay at € 47...
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                          and was given this nice Arnold & Sons pocket trumpet - the ideal hospital trumpet! free, in exchange for a review...

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                          and finally exchanged a badly dented and patched UMI Benge 7 for this Olds Recording...
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                          Courtois Balanced
                          Courtois D
                          Olds Recording
                          Buescher Aristocrat
                          Gaudet C
                          Selmer G
                          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                          Besson International Bb cornet
                          Courtois Bb cornet
                          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                          B&H Sovereign trombone
                          Willy Garreis trombone
                          Weltklang Euph

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                            Gendreauj @barliman2001 last edited by

                            @barliman2001
                            Very nice. You are amazing at finding excellent shape horn bargains.

                            Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                            Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                            Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                            Mendini Tenor sax
                            Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                            Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                              Gendreauj @Gendreauj last edited by

                              Due to an awful cold I have been limiting my playing time.Almost back to normal so will be playing more .
                              Tried blowing on my cornet, no sound came out. Wiped down the valves and it plays fine. A huge bottle of blue juice came with this cornet.
                              Started playing the tenor sax and it does sound good. It came with cane reeds, neck strap, ligature and mouthpiece.
                              Of course I bought a new mouthpiece, ligature, neck harness and different strengths of Legere reeds.
                              Did not like the first neck harness and waiting on another one.
                              Now I am a doubler again.

                              Schiller m Shepherds crook cornet.
                              Wick 3B and Wick 4 W
                              Straight mute, Wick adjustable mute
                              Mendini Tenor sax
                              Yamaha 5C mouthpiece
                              Legere 2.5 & 3 reeds

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                                robertwerntz last edited by

                                Great news!

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                                • Dale Proctor
                                  Dale Proctor @barliman2001 last edited by Dale Proctor

                                  @barliman2001

                                  Here are a few of my finds over the years:

                                  1977 Bach Stradivarius at a junk store for $150. Just needed polishing.
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                                  1983 Bach Stradivarius C trumpet, almost new trade-in at a music store, $500.
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                                  1890 Besson (London) A/Bb/C cornet on eBay, $65. I did have to pay a shop $50 to unstick everything.
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                                  1976 Bach Mercedes on eBay (my most recent find), $175. It plays as well as my Strad, and BTW, it’s not a Mercedes II. 🙂
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                                  1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                                  1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                                  1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                                  1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                                  1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                                  1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                                  1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                                  1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                                    J. Jericho Global Moderator @Dale Proctor last edited by

                                    @Dale-Proctor The mouthpieces in your Bach Mercedes case look fairly deep... or is that an illusion?

                                    '62 Olds Studio Trumpet
                                    '67 Olds Special Trumpet
                                    2013 Dillon Pocket Trumpet
                                    '83 Yamaha YFH-731 Flugelhorn
                                    1919 York Perfec-Tone Cornet
                                    '50 Olds Studio Trombone
                                    Shofar

                                    "If it was just up to me, I'd only have trumpet players on my show." - Jackie Gleason

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                                      Dale Proctor @J. Jericho last edited by Dale Proctor

                                      @J-Jericho said in Doubling on tenor sax:

                                      @Dale-Proctor The mouthpieces in your Bach Mercedes case look fairly deep... or is that an illusion?

                                      They are what I’d call a medium C-cup depth. The gold one (top one) is a Connstellation 9C-W, and the silver one is a Curry 3C.

                                      1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                                      1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                                      1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                                      1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                                      1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                                      1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                                      1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                                      1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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