Game of Thrones Thread
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No insult intended to anyone, but I don't see what's the big deal, whether you like it, don't like it or have not seen it. Who cares?
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@administrator The first two seasons were particularly raunchy. They toned it down (a little bit) after that.
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I now realize that my life is meaningless and empty because I have never seen "Game of Thrones".
I repent.
I have seen the error of my ways and I intend to see "Game of Thrones" as soon as possible.
Next time I post I will be wearing a t-shirt which says "I got GOT".
I will then be a member of the International Brotherhood of GOT.
moshe
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I simply fail to find any depth or purpose of life in television. Nevertheless, I'm not critical of those who enjoy it. It's simply not my favorite form of recreation.
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@administrator I completely agree when it comes to traditional network TV. There isn't one single program on regular TV that I watch. But some of the news, documentary, arts, and nature channels are OK. A while ago I had to spend about a half day in a hospital ER waiting room while my mother had surgery. I was the first one there, so I set the channel to the National Geographic channel or something of that sort. But every time I got up and went out to go to the bathroom or check on mom's status, I would come back and somebody had changed the channel to soap operas. OMG. People who watch that stuff are actually allowed to vote?
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Next time I post I will be wearing a t-shirt which says "I got GOT".
I will then be a member of the International Brotherhood of GOT.GOT sei dank!
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@BigDub said in Game of Thrones Thread:
I don’t really make it a practice to dump on people, do I? It’s more a kind of self deprecating type humor, much like my heritage of Norwegian decent. Besides, I don’t have HBO, or whatever network it shows on. So, how backward am I, right?
I honestly don’t have any opinion about the show, so how is that dumping on anyone?
More power to them. Enjoy what you like. I am truly happy for those that enjoy it. I promise I won’t march around their houses with placards or anything like that.The way you posted your initial response was in a way bagging on anyone who felt they needed to watch the show.
"Never. Watched. One. Episode. Or clip. Or preview.
And yet, I feel fulfilled in life."It's fine that you haven't seen it, but the way you responded makes it seem like you look down on anyone who would take the time to get into a show like "Game of Thrones." If you hadn't intended it like that, maybe you shouldn't have punctuated each word, or made the comment about feeling fulfilled in life without it. Perhaps?
As for the show being "raunchy" There is definitely some T&A and "adult" content - I'm not sure it was absolutely warranted to move the plot, but $3x sells - always has, and always will. Much of it also followed the books, so there is that. But in any case, I'm pushing 50, have been married for almost 27 years, and have two children - the stuff in GOT really isn't that much of a mystery to me.
I had hoped that this thread would be a neat discussion revolving around characters, plot points, story arcs and that kind of thing. Instead it seems that I need to defend myself for the simple fact that I (like millions of other people around the globe) choose to watch this show.
As for getting or not getting HBO, I have an HBO Now subscription - it's like Netflix or Hulu or Amazon Prime video - a few bucks a month and you can stream it through any smart TV, Roku or Fire Stick.
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I know nothing about Game of Thrones either. Never seen it, don't understand all the hub-bub about it.
Now someone earlier mentioned Star Trek. Now you're talking! I still am a HUGE Star Trek fan, and have all the original episodes on DVD, along with the 6 original movies. My family watched every single episode in the 60's and every single one of us got hooked, and never missed it!
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I have not read the books but I think that Game of Thrones is a great show that is well written and well acted.
I think that it parallels real life in that the good guys don't always win, crime and treachery often pay off (at least for awhile), bad people sometimes do good things and are sometimes re-deemed, and all humans are flawed. Strange and awkward alliances are sometimes needed to combat a common threat.........
Very entertaining with great twists.
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@ButchA said in Game of Thrones Thread:
I know nothing about Game of Thrones either. Never seen it, don't understand all the hub-bub about it.
Now someone earlier mentioned Star Trek. Now you're talking! I still am a HUGE Star Trek fan, and have all the original episodes on DVD, along with the 6 original movies. My family watched every single episode in the 60's and every single one of us got hooked, and never missed it!
Some would probably say the same thing about Star Trek - they don't know what all the hub-bub is about.
Again, and I say with all sincerity, (and I've seen a good bit of the Star Trek offerings too - at least all the major motion pictures and and all of the original "Next Generation" series) that Game of Thrones is some of the best cinematic entertainment I've ever seen. The plot-lines are solid, because they aren't written for the show specifically, but rather they revolve around the books (initially with very few deviations) which were well written. The settings and cinematography are breathtaking. The special effects take the very best of what today's world of CGI enhanced special effects have to offer, and it has wonderful, colorful characters.
The story arcs I think I've most enjoyed are Tyrion's and Arya's. Robtrx mentioned how people can be redeemed. I HATED Sansa's character for the first 3-4 seasons, but she's come a long long way, and her story arc has gotten much more interesting.
The show has 5 episodes left, and I have no idea how things are going to end - it's a show where you can't count on any character surviving the next 5 minutes, never mind the remainder of the series.
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So, trumpeting hivemind, assuming you have watched GOT at all, how would you end it? That's always the challenge with these epics. They have foreshadowed many possibilities. Are there any examples from opera that would provide a precedent?
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@Newell-Post said in Game of Thrones Thread:
So . . how would you end it? That's always the challenge with these epics. They have foreshadowed many possibilities. Are there any examples from . . that would provide a precedent?
Don't make any more episodes.
When Coltrane told Miles that he just didn't know how to end a solo, Miles said, "Try taking the f***ing horn out of your mouth"!
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Favorite (although not major) all time GOT character Ser Brynden "Blackfish" Tully. Awesome one liners:
"As long as I'm standing, the war is not over........."
"I've had wet sh#ts that I like more than Walder Frey."
Sad that he was killed off, although, we never did SEE him die, did we...........
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I loved the look of disgust he gives Edmure when he snatches the bow away to fire the flaming arrow at the Hoster's funeral boat because Edmure kept missing. He snatches it away, looks at the pennants to check for the wind, looses the arrow, then doesn't even watch it hit - he turns around and roughly gives it back to Edmure as he walks off.
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@trickg sorry. I may have had those thoughts in the back of my mind. I truly don’t begrudge anyone who may like something I know little about. I just don’t feel deprived in any way for not having any interest.
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I guess that I never thought of Sansa as "bad", but more of a spoiled, bratty, teenage rich girl who is forced into terrible hardships that made her mature into the strong, savvy, leader that she has become.
The Hound, and Jaime Lannister are characters who started off with little moral fiber and having done truly despicable acts emerge as flawed "heroes" who will seemingly play pivotal roles in the final episodes.............
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I’ve read the books and watched the first two seasons. I made the choice early on that I’d prefer to finish the original story (books) before moving on with the show.
I didn’t expect that GRR Martin would take so freaking long to finish them and that the show would finish first....sheesh. I’m pretty sure he started writing the first book back in the 90’s. Anyway...
George has a great writing style and he certainly knows how to weave a story together. It takes a certain kind of mind to have sooooo many memorable characters with so much going on AND be able to connect them all together in such a clean way. He doesn’t leave plot holes, he doesn’t use the typical expositional cheats that most story tellers use, and he certainly doesn’t pander to the masses.
The one character I have focused on as a potential “sleeper” to come back by storm (in the books) is Benjen Stark. This guy “disappears” in the first book and hasn’t been brought back yet. I’ve thought for years now that he would be a great character to bring back... likely through Bran’s storyline.
You never know with these books (or the show) though. Your favorite character could go at any time.
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OK, so here is Newell's outline of the possible "Hollywood" ending:
- Jon Snow and Daenerys "bend the knee" to each other and agree to marry and rule jointly and benevolently.
- Cersei dies of complications of her incestuous pregnancy.
- Tyrion maintains his post as "hand" of the king/queen.
- Samwell Tarly becomes grand maester and learns from the ancient books that the army of the dead were created by the children of the forest and can only be defeated by an alliance between the armies of men, the dragons, and the children of the forest.
- The iron throne is melted down to make weapons for the war , since it contains Valyrian Steel. Jon and Daenerys rule from simple chairs, not the iron throne.
- In the grand battle, the army of the dead is defeated by the alliance of the armies of men, the dragons, and the children of the forest, who now realize their mistake in creating the white walkers.
- Many die in the grand battle including Jaime, Sansa, Arya, and many others.
- While the army of the dead is defeated, a few "survivors" escape back to the north. BUT THEY'LL BE BACK.
- Maybe the dragons are all killed in the war, but they left eggs!
- ...and some loose ends get resolved, but many others do not.
So, that's my take on the Hollywood ending. But, since it's GOT, it almost certainly won't have a Hollywood ending.
And for those of you who are not GOT thrones fans, but are musicians (witnesseth your presence on this site) I ask: "Is this GOT stuff really any weirder than what you see in opera?" Don Giovanni, The Ring of the Nibelung, and even The Magic Flute have plenty of supernatural elements. You can bet Mozart and Wagner would have used dragons if the props masters could have built them....
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Star Trek is more of a cartoon if compared to GofT. You know the good guys will win. You know that if they beam down to a planet, the security guy , you’ve never seen before, will die. And you know the engines can actually take it.
GofT is the opposite. It’s the best TV series I’ve ever seen. The battles are epic. To those that like to boast they’ve never watched an episode, it’s like saying to me, "I’ve never played above the stave." I just pity them.
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Well, I will give you ardent GoT fans this: I am confident it is no more a waste of time tha this year's Super Bowl.