Posts made by Kehaulani

I come mainly to learn trumpet and musical techniques and usually to learn from others.

My background is in composing, conducting and playing woodwinds. I've got tons of experience in those. I studied trumpet and played in Lab Bands at UNT as a student and played trumpet in the military for one tour in and in soul bands.

So, most of my experience, and I can share in those areas, are as stated, while trumpet experience was as a professional, too, but much less than the other areas.

I do think the TM crowd is less hard-core than the TH one, but I still see the Lounge as a fleeting diversion, not as a replacement for musical/trumpet subjects.

Uh, I think I mentioned both Bob Wills as well as Western Swing.

Regarding much of the other music, I don't think the series has gotten too many of those bands yet. Of course, maybe things have just taken longer to reach Texans. It's a little laid back, there.

My impression is that, although horns were definitely used by musicians who played Country Music, horns were not a defining part of real Country Music yet. The core instrumentation of early C&W were strings.

BTW, wind instruments were not city instruments. Great and long legacy of winds used everyplace in America.

Danny Davis

I've been watching the series and I don't think it's progressed, chronologically enough to include horns. Also, Bob Wills was mentioned but I don't recall much emphasis on horn groups or Western Swing.

This will, no doubt, elicit a knee-jerk reaction from some who are either offended or who wonder who the heck I think I am. Fair enough. But I think this needs airing.

There is value on any forum for a Lounge, to let members let off steam and to discuss things that do not fall under the general category of the Forum's main intent. This Forum, however, has begun, and stayed, in the realm of "Loungeism". Jokes, pretty pictures etc.

As long as there is no widespread interest in pursuing questions about trumpet pedagogy and musicianship, it will not grow. I've noticed that there were members in the former forum who no longer participate. It seems sort of self-evident.

His concept of going out vs. going up was taught to me back in the 60s when I sat next to a guy who had played lead for Kenton and Herman and went on to be a first-call L.A. studio musician. That concept of thinking of range in incremental steps going in and out vs. high and low was liberating for me.

As an aside, I played professional woodwinds for about 20 years in between stints as a brass player, and there is no particular "up" (at least as compared to conventional trumpet playing), pedagogically, in sax plating. Even now, when I play high, I just think of flipping an octave key on and off. Previously, I used to used lot of tension and visible muscling for "high" notes.

Thank you.

I guess my mind just doesn't work that way. That is, in expressing in more precise, technical terms what can, to me at least, is just self-evident and doesn't need such wordy and intellectual expression.

I'm not saying that it might not be beneficial for others, our minds don't all work alike. But for me, this is obvious and doesn't need such a description.

@Vulgano-Brother said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:

I pulled up behind a car in California (where else?) that had a bumper sticker that said, "Nuke the gay whales for Jesus", LOL.

Found it. Glad to know the readership has such a wide variety of source-banks.

@Dr-Mark said in Jazz Song #3 - So What:

Whew! Lots of emotion! Calmer heads and warmer hearts, please.

Well, I said I would bow out, but I said that dispassionately. Just a statement of fact and no emotional baggage at all.

But since you sought to clarify the "Minimal Structures" thing, I'll just add that, unless I misunderstand it totally, it seems to me it can be expressed in plain language absent micro-analytical verbiage. Just a personal preference?

And I still want to know why no one else has chimed in?

O.K. Hu's on First?

How is that, when the Selmer valve block is placed further away from the embouchure side of the instrument, as shown in the middle graphic?

Also (and I don't know squat from engineering) but aren't the lengths of conventional trumpet bells the same length.

@Dr-Mark

Translation for we illiterate peasants?

This is either/both something that I am totally unfamiliar with or too intellectually challenging for me to understand as a stand-alone or it's application to improvising.. I'll just withdraw because I, obviously, have no command or understanding of the subject.

p.s. I notice, though, a dearth of responses from other forum members. Why is that?

How does the Selmer Balanced Action valve placement effect that? Isn't it's valve placement the same as the cornet in the graphic?

@Dr-GO said in Jazz Song #3 - So What:

That's only a part of the equation (Minimal Structure Theory on jazz improvisation)

Dr. Go, some of my comments are more philosophical than about Minimal Theory, itself. Can you give me a good internet source for Minimal Structure Theory as applied to improvisation that summarizes this technique? The only thing I can find is doctoral-thesis length. I've never heard of it or it's value. Thanks.

That's just a way of over-complicating music. "Paralysis by analysis".

In England, a free Willy has a whole different connotation.

@Dr-Mark said in Jazz Song #3 - So What:

@Kehaulani said in Jazz Song #3 - So What:

This is what to toy around with at the improv section

Back in the day, we used our ear.

Funny, I have never heard of that.

Nor, and no disrespect meant - it's probably my deficiency and not anyone else's - I don't see it's relavence.

Concerning the influence of this tune (and it was huge) is that it was actually preceded by Milestones which also, if I'm not mistaken (you can use more chords on the head but you don't have to) is also based on just one chords a section.

@SSmith1226 said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:

@Kehaulani
This photo is the street side ( as opposed to the lake side in the video below ) of the White Horse Inn in St. Wolfgang, Austria. It is on Lake Wolfgang and in the Lake Region of Austria, not far from Salzburg.

Beautiful region. I spent some time in Schladming facing a mountain range that was so beautiful that sometimes I would have to look away. If you can visualize what I mean, it was so beautiful, it hurt my eyes.

@SSmith1226 said in How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?:

Is that Austria?