Posts made by Kehaulani

@ROWUK said in PLEASE KEEP CIVIL!:
… it is a question if everyone posts thoughtfully . .

Amen to that. I was following a post on another forum. For all intents and purposes, the question was answered in the very next post. Yet this went on for three pages, with redundancy and got further detailed and esoteric, sometimes with a post that is three inches long. What the heck is behind that?

The discussion here in this thread is exemplary of something far different. No one asked why escalation occurred - “Keep it Civil” is just a bandaid - a lame attempt to keep an infection from spreading. I would insist that a band aid on top of a festering wound is not the best solution - although for a while, out of sight is out of mind. We may need some time until a diagnosis is possible, but I do not see the questions even being asked.

I don't think there's a need to overqualify this word. Every body here knows that "civil " means. It's just a matter of how far someone wants to push it.

Example:
My definition of “ignorant” is not an insult, rather a description of someone that chooses to IGNORE the truth.

You're playing with words, Robin. Regardless of how you receive the word "ignorant", it was not something benign and up to various interpretation. The poster of that clearly meant that as an insult, as if he were talking to a person who didn't have a clue.

@IrishTrumpeter said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

@Kehaulani Thanks for the Advice - I did a bit of local googling and found out about the Music Grades thing - so I have ordered a grades 1 to 8 scales book and Grades 1 to 3 music book from my local book shop

Are you talking about the ABRSM Series?

This is almost Zen like. Looking at the finger pointing at the moon instead of looking at the moon, itself.

We seem to spend an awful amount of time talking about how we should talk about things trumpet/musical rather than talking about trumpet/music itself.

Man, this is a heck of a way to spend your Virus time: Shostakovich String Quartet VIII, mvt. III arr. for trumpets.

Youtube Video

So, one octave is from the lower to higher note of the same name. C-C, F-F, etc. Two octaves are just that, twice the distance. So, in trumpet terms, G below the staff to G in the staff is one octave. Then that G in the staff to G above the staff is the second octave. Put them together and you have a two octave scale.

Is this a for-sale item? A good photo might be helpful.

@GeorgeB said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:
I practice at 5 am to 6 am mornings .

I thought 5 AM was when you were getting IN not when you're getting UP.

Yes. Concurrent with my Doctoral work, I was an Air Force band director, so I was conducting at the same time. I retired from the A.F., moved to Germany and finished my degree.

I stayed in Germany and continued conducting, this time the city bands I mentioned, the Chamber players of the Southwest German Radio/T.V. Orchestra, the University of Kaiserslautern Concert Band, as well as leading Jazz big bands. After about 20 years in Germany, I moved back to the U.S. and then conducted the Austin Community Wind Ensemble.

My first stroke ended my conducting.

Do you not know what a scale or an octave is, or are you asking something else?

p.s. Actually, if you want a definitive answer, I would ask Tim Wendt on TH. He 's done a ton of shows.

Doesn't he mean to alternate on each eighth between an open "G" followed by a note fingered with the third finger? It's goal is a more percussive effect than a melodic one? What's the tempo?

Class act.

@Dr-GO said in Getting straight what I can and cannot do:
Question Kehaulani, did you start conducting the Arlington Symphony before or after obtaining the DMA for Conducting?

I was the rehearsal conductor under David Pollitt as part of my work towards my Doctorate at Catholic University of America, D.C.

BTW, that's Arlington, Virginia not Arlington, Texas.

First thing, being respected or otherwise, LOL, that wasn't an issue with me, at all. I have worked with musicians who had advanced formal training and those strictly from the streets. There was always much to learn from these street guys, so I don't think of a formal education as trumping anything.

The same goes with amateurs. There's always something to be learned from the next person. And, in my case, that particularly holds true, because I'm having to relearn a lot of stuff and what amateur players are dealing with may be exactly the same that I need. There are almost two complete years I don't even remember.

Regarding recordings of me, I've traveled light over the years. I've lived in nine different states and two countries, traveled/worked throughout the Western hemisphere from Saigon to Moscow, and have not carried much with me.

But to my current situation, I've moved from two hospitals, two rehab centers and two Independent Living facilities with little to no storage facilities. The only things I have (I'm old) are some VHSs and I don't know how to transfer that to this format. I'd be glad to, but I just can't.

There keep cropping up assumptions about my background and I don't blame you for getting it confused. I hope no one thinks this is pretentious, because it's not. It's just that there are some things I know, but some things I have very little experience in, and they keep gettig mixed up. Knowledge of one thing doesn't imply knowledge of another. I wouldn't normally do this, but I think it might be helpful in avoiding any further confusion.

Training:
Secondary school: trumpet
College: BM on French horn, trumpet. MM on sax, flute.

Professional (sequential):
Service: French horn, trumpet
Free-lance composer/arranger
A.F. Band Commander
Self-employed sax and flute player, conductor, composer

Then: 2 major strokes, at least 3 minor strokes, unable to use left hand, so back to trumpet. And what a way back it has been.

Example of professional performance:
Royal Hawaiian Band, Air Force band, Tokyo Youth Philharmonic; French horn
Air Force band, soul band, big bands; trumpet
Big bands, county concert band, jazz and rock combos; saxes, flute
-most playing experience has been here

Conducting: the Arlington Symphony, USAF Band, D.C., Austin Civic Wind Ensemble, three German city bands, All-Sound Big Band (Germany)

BM: Composition major, Theory minor
MM: Composition major, Woodwind minor
DMA Conducting

I don't mean this in an uncharitable way at all, but I think you must have had a bad experience but I don't think it's universal. I've worked with all kinds of musicians and of all different kinds of backgrounds, some with little formal education to those with PhDs and I have never known one that didn't get something out of their education.

Now, some just got an opportunity to play in some great ensembles and make some valuable relationships, while there where others who really increased their knowledge. It was really personal, depending on their level when they started school and what their goals were.

One day during a composition lesson, I looked out the window and across the street at the main entrance to the building and said to my professor, "That's sad. There should be a sign over the entrance that says, "Caveat Emptor". He looked at me, took a pregnant pause, and said, "You have to create your own vacancy".

Barliman, I was talking about Conservatory graduates. I certainly don't reflect an exhaustive group, but in my personal experience, the ones I've known all had Abiturs.

OldSchool, maybe I missed it, but does your post relate to the value of higher music education?

Yes, if I'm not mistaking, for admission to a European (or at least German) Conservatory or music school, someone would have to have an Abitur, which is roughly equal to American H.S. diploma plus two years of community college. So a European Conservatory grad would have the same amount, or level (and I realise this is arbitrary) as an American with a Master Degree.

(Is this right barliman? It's kind of hard to adequately characterise or show parity.)

So, in a sense, the question applies for both. In other words, what's the value of advanced higher musical education?

Of course a moderator, as is their right, can close this thread before it gets started, but I thought the original topic is very useful for some, so I'm continuing this topic, hopefully devoid of rancor this time.

First, I would encourage anyone interested, to read the content of the original thread and avoid redundancy. https://trumpetboards.com/topic/736/should-i-go-to-graduate-school

There were pros and cons posted about going to music graduate schools. Does anyone have any further thoughts?