I gave up on "Double High C in . . "



  • I decided I finally have time to do the one-day-on, one-day-off, Double High C in 37 Weeks system. The exercises are a lot like the Magio ones, so I figured I've got nothing to lose.

    But after a couple of weeks of spending half my time not playing, it's driving me nuts. So back to Maggio and The Balanced Embouchure. Anybody else try this system and just go nuts with so much time on their hands?



  • Charles Peters' “Total Range” is progressive, uses many of the same exercises (without the chin-tuck thing) as in 37 weeks, is to be used daily, AND as an adjunct to other playing.

    Worked for me and my students.



  • I've got Total Range, Vulgano. Maybe I'll take another look at it. If my memory is right, though, he just stole exercises from Spaulding and, if so, something would just rub me wrong to use it. I'll take another look at it, though.

    p.s. I just looked at it. It seems to have ripped off a lot of stuff from Spaulding. Further it's what I would call, "garbaged up" with extraneous markings. And it also waits until later to use pedal tones, so I'll stick with the Maggio.

    Thanks for reminding me of it, though. I appreciate it.



  • The Maggio is essentially the same method us but with more focus on the upper muscles. Less fatigue, more stamina.



  • Try doing it every day. That's how you are supposed to do it the 2nd and 4th times through the book anyway. If you start to feel beat then take the day off. Also I recommend that if you already have a good High C just start on the 13th day and see how it goes. You can also do other playing just keep fresh. Try using "Rest as much as you play" for your other playing also.

    Don't change your embouchure for the pedals. Keep your lip in the mouthpiece.



  • @Kehaulani I worked in Germany some with a Japanese trumpeter who studied in Vienna and later the Spaulding method. He had wonderful technique and a consistent "double-high D" (concert) but had a sound like a laser beam, even on his Ganter.

    He didn't work a lot.



  • Off-topic. @ Vulgano. Where were you in Germany?


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    I don't recommend anything that focuses on range to the exclusion of all other skills.



  • @administrator It sounds like you haven't seen the book. It's premise is range development by doing basic skills and progressing gradually in range. One's sound depends on whether you are paying attention to it or not.



  • @administrator said in I gave up on "Double High C in . . ":
    I don't recommend anything that focuses on range to the exclusion of all other skills.

    Gee, that's helpful. My finger coordination is not so good, due to my strokes. I know what Williams, et al, do for one, but I have a physical problem so, for the time being, the one thing I can work on with some progress, is the embouchure, so that's what I'll do. The fingers, God willing, will come as time passes.



  • @Kehaulani Near Stuttgart. Roughly 1990 - early 2000s.



  • @Vulgano-Brother said in I gave up on "Double High C in . . ":

    @Kehaulani Near Stuttgart. Roughly 1990 - early 2000s.

    Thanks, Vulgano. My second son works for Mercedes there. I also have a step daughter living there.



  • @Kehaulani My nephew used to drive Maybach's from point A to point B as a summer job.

    They weren't allowed to go through the McDonald's drive-through.



  • The only thing I know for sure as far as my playing goes is that my on- the -staff-play suffered when I spent too much time doing difficult high range exercises.

    So I had to ask myself what is the point ? On a good day I can play a clean D above high C, and so far in the band I play in I have never had to play anything higher than a Bd.



  • @GeorgeB said in I gave up on "Double High C in . . ":

    The only thing I know for sure as far as my playing goes is that my on- the -staff-play suffered when I spent too much time doing difficult high range exercises.

    So I had to ask myself what is the point ? On a good day I can play a clean D above high C, and so far in the band I play in I have never had to play anything higher than a Bd.

    Agreed. The goal is to play clean, at any range in our arsenal.



  • @Dr-GO
    That makes good sense to me, Doc.


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