New Player has entered the Game - Part 2



  • Hi All,

    I am not usually a poster on Forums - i think my default setting is lurking with the like button out!

    Anyway still in lockdown here in Ireland and i reached a little milestone on my Trumpeting.

    When i started playing in March I watched a quite a lot of different how to play videos and settled on the series of play along from Learntoplaymusic.com who have a 30 video series on the Trumpet for beginners. I worked my way through these to when the slurs started and started struggling quite a bit

    I The also saw that Tonestro had improved the Trumpet part of their app and took out the subscription to follow their learning series. Their app is very different from the videos and has quite a lot of things lacking (To be fair its a new app and most of what is missing is in their development list).

    The thing i miss the most is in the learning series the background is only a metronome, so I have no clue what I am playing. Its a mix of songs i know and stuff they made up themselves - its unreal how much easier it is to complete a lesson well after picking out what the song is!!

    So i have been bashing away every day on Tonestro and got to the slurs which suddenly are much more doable which is great.

    The current struggle is with 3/4 timing (I think its cause the tunes are written by them, so tricky to get into) Have also started on the 2/4 which is fun.

    Notes wise I am C to C on the scales and in a few tunes - slowly making my way up!

    Anyway yesterday was not a great day for practice and getting frustrated I went back to my videos - i couldn't believe it - i was able to complete each of the remaining ones first time out and pretty well (For a given amount of Well)

    I really enjoy reading the advice on this forum - (I am trying to keep my high notes with less power to let my lips close naturally. ) - so please keep up the advice 🙂



  • Sounds like you are doing well. I am into my 5th year as a comeback player at the age of 84. I played between 1953 to 1965 with my own 5 piece combo as a weekend warrior. Did well until DJ's and rock music took over in '65, so I put the horn aside then and concentrated on my career in printing and publishing. I often wonder how far advanced I'd be today as a player had I stuck with the trumpet.

    I am not qualified to hand out advance other than to say what works for me, and what works for me is a daily dose of long tones, flow studies, lots of 2 octave scales and plenty of lip slurs. But most of all I use my afternoon practice time to play tunes-- never less than 12 every day, seven days a week.



  • Hey George - everyone here seems to have an amazing trumpeting history!!

    My music history began on the 22nd March this year 🙂

    I wish i could spend that much time - i am 45 - three kids (15 to 8 ) and a job...

    can i ask what do you mean by 2 Octave Scale? - I cant see that on tonestro - or maybe i do but its described differently -



  • Do you not know what a scale or an octave is, or are you asking something else?



  • @IrishTrumpeter

    2 Octave Scales:
    This is playing every major and minor scale in every key. For example a C Major scale goes from C below the staff to high C above the staff. The key of G Major goes from G below the staff to G above the staff, etc., until all keys are played. I do these once a week. I also do INTERVALS once a week in various keys from below to above the staff. Most of the other exercises are done daily. I practice at 5 am to 6 am mornings and from 3 pm to 4 pm every afternoon playing tunes.

    I know where you are coming from. I had a wife and 3 sons when I was playing evenings or weekends as well as holding down a full time job in the 50s and 60s. It's not easy on the family. I was lucky and had a great wife who never complained.



  • @GeorgeB said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:
    I practice at 5 am to 6 am mornings .

    😨 I thought 5 AM was when you were getting IN not when you're getting UP. 😁



  • @Kehaulani said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

    @GeorgeB said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:
    I practice at 5 am to 6 am mornings .

    😨 I thought 5 AM was when you were getting IN not when you're getting UP. 😁

    Ha ha...yeah, that happened a lot between 1953 and 1965.



  • @Kehaulani said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

    @GeorgeB said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:
    I practice at 5 am to 6 am mornings .

    😨 I thought 5 AM was when you were getting IN not when you're getting UP. 😁

    Some of us start work now when we used to go to sleep - "maturity" sucks!



  • @OldSchoolEuph said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

    @Kehaulani said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

    @GeorgeB said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:
    I practice at 5 am to 6 am mornings .

    😨 I thought 5 AM was when you were getting IN not when you're getting UP. 😁

    Some of us start work now when we used to go to sleep - "maturity" sucks!

    In medicine, it's more like eat when you can eat, sleep when you can sleep, and don't f**k around with the pancreas!



  • @GeorgeB Thanks for the explanation and I found them on my app - I'll give them a go tonight



  • @Kehaulani Is was the "2 Octave Scales" bit that confused me - I did look up what an octave is (As per wikipedia) but it didnt really help.

    I have zero musical background - no instruments at all growing up - so this is all very new.



  • So, one octave is from the lower to higher note of the same name. C-C, F-F, etc. Two octaves are just that, twice the distance. So, in trumpet terms, G below the staff to G in the staff is one octave. Then that G in the staff to G above the staff is the second octave. Put them together and you have a two octave scale.



  • A qualified teacher can resolve a lot of mysteries for you and keep you on track to avoid mistakes and techniques you'd have to unlearn as you try to improve. At least start with a cyber trip to eBay, and purchase a Rubank Elementary Cornet & Trumpet Method book. It's the first of a series, and it provides the necessary musical perspective you're looking for. Besides, these Rubank books usually cost well under $10, including shipping.


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    I always recommend a qualified teacher.

    You can get lessons online if you are not within travelling distance of a teacher.



  • @Kehaulani Thanks for the Advice - I did a bit of local googling and found out about the Music Grades thing - so I have ordered a grades 1 to 8 scales book and Grades 1 to 3 music book from my local book shop



  • @IrishTrumpeter
    I got my grounding as a teen first at a local conservatory of music and later a solid year of learning from the local area's top professional trumpet player and by my second year I had joined the union, had my own band, and the following year had a long term contract for the band to play a regular Saturday night teen dance during the summer. So I am a strong believer in being taught to play the trumpet by qualified teachers.

    However, there are those that can teach themselves and if that is the route you intend to take, take things slow and easy and with caution. Not all the advice you will get will be the best advice. We are all individuals in our abilities and our needs.

    I wish you the best.



  • @administrator said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

    I always recommend a qualified teacher.

    You can get lessons online if you are not within travelling distance of a teacher.

    I taught trumpet lessons during my college years while minoring in music at the University of Cincinnati College Conservatory of Music, so I believe I was qualified to teach trumpet lessons during that time. Now I am just a physician so know better than to try to teach trumpet lessons at this time.



  • @IrishTrumpeter said in New Player has entered the Game - Part 2:

    @Kehaulani Thanks for the Advice - I did a bit of local googling and found out about the Music Grades thing - so I have ordered a grades 1 to 8 scales book and Grades 1 to 3 music book from my local book shop

    Are you talking about the ABRSM Series?



  • @Kehaulani yes i was - I guess i am now learning from 4 separate sources, which is great for variety and if i am failing on one thing i can switch and come back a few days later..

    Got up to high D working well ish at the weekend - which was great fun



  • Are you calling High D the third-line in the staff D or D above High C?

    About the ABRSM materials, I've been using them since I first discovered them on a trip to England back in the 80s. Nicely organized set of evolutionary materials.


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