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    • C
      Comeback last edited by

      Several of us play Getzen horns regularly. Perhaps this thread will come to serve as a repository for all things Getzen.

      I think I have owned four Getzen Bb trumpets so far: three Severinsens and one 900 Eterna Classic. Presently, a mid-1970s Severinsen is my primary horn. My current silver plated Sev is in remarkably good condition. Looking at it and concluding that it is nearly new is an easy thing to do. It has the usual adjustable third valve slide finger ring and no tuning aid on the first valve slide. It is light, responsive, produces great sound, and fits me perfectly. The valves work marvelously.

      There are some who criticize the plastic slide stops commonly found on the Sev's and some other Getzen trumpets. Not me. I like them. They are quiet and do not project below the third valve slide, also I have never had one break or cause a single issue. They are easy to remove and replace for maintenance purposes too. They can be a little difficult to find. I have two for backups, but wonder if I will ever need them. I have experimented with the three adjustment slots on the slide stops. The slot nearest to the center of the stop works well for my third valve tuning needs.

      Jim

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by Kehaulani

        I played a Severinsen in college (UNT) and in the service. Since then, I've had two more of them, getting rid of them, all.

        My first one served me well and it was a fine horn. (Two tuning slides, one of the early ones). Although I used it in concert band, it seemed to me to be more commercial and I played in big bands and soul bands with it, as well.

        The last two I've had were part of a horn Safari. My use has changed and I lean more towards horns I can darken. While it's possible with a Severinsen, it was easier on some others. The Severinsen was just a little too bright for me. If you want a sound like Doc's, that's fine. I don't.

        A word about the valves. It seems almost mandatory to include how they're the best in the business. Hogwash. I've never had a horn with valve problems. That includes various Schilkes, Constellations, Benges, Committees and Yamahas.

        Let's say, for the case of argument, that Getzens are 100%. All your other horns are 90%. But you only need them to be at 80%. It's a non-starter.

        Benge 3X
        Martin Committee
        Getzen Capri Cornet
        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
        Charlie Parker

        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
        Chet Baker

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        • Shifty
          Shifty @Comeback last edited by

          @Comeback said in Getzen Club:

          There are some who criticize the plastic slide stops commonly found on the Sev's and some other Getzen trumpets. Not me. I like them. They are quiet and do not project below the third valve slide, also I have never had one break or cause a single issue. They are easy to remove and replace for maintenance purposes too. They can be a little difficult to find. I have two for backups, but wonder if I will ever need them. I have experimented with the three adjustment slots on the slide stops. The slot nearest to the center of the stop works well for my third valve tuning needs.

          I've got a 1997 700S and it doesn't look or feel a day older than my 2018 800S. The 700S has the plastic stop, and I'm a fan as well. Downright elegant design, IMHO, but I did have one break. At the time I found a replacement on Amazon, although I don't see it there now. But they can be found:

          https://www.hickeys.com/music/brass/trumpet/accessories/custom_and_replacement_parts/products/sku125082-getzentrumpet-3rd-valve-slide-stop-plastic.php

          My 1959 Connstellation 28A was built before they started adding slide stops, and I wished it had a Getzen style stop. Others talk about using a string, which is decidedly NOT elegant. I use two zip ties -- one on the third slide and one on the tube exiting the main tuning slide, with heads positioned to interfere. Just rotate one to remove the slide. Call it semi-elegant 😎 😎

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          Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
          Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
          ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

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          • Dale Proctor
            Dale Proctor @Shifty last edited by Dale Proctor

            @Shifty said in Getzen Club:

            My 1959 Connstellation 28A was built before they started adding slide stops, and I wished it had a Getzen style stop. Others talk about using a string, which is decidedly NOT elegant. I use two zip ties -- one on the third slide and one on the tube exiting the main tuning slide, with heads positioned to interfere. Just rotate one to remove the slide. Call it semi-elegant 😎 😎

            I have a 1960 Conn 6B Victor, and I secure the 3rd valve slide with a black elastic pony tail holder looped around the brace between the lower tuning slide and 3rd valve receivers, with both ends slipped over the finger ring screw. It holds the slide in, but has enough stretch to easily move the slide for intonation help. It has the added bonus of helping return the slide...lol

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            1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
            1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
            1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
            1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
            1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
            1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
            1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
            1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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              Comeback last edited by Comeback

              @Shifty, a section mate in community band plays a 700S and loves it. He may also own an 800S! Thank you for posting the link for plastic slide stops. If this thread endures as a source of information for those that own and play Getzen trumpets, it should be quite useful. The 900 Eterna Classic I owned had a clever slide stop, but I do not remember it as having any provision for adjustment.

              Jim

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              • Shifty
                Shifty @Dale Proctor last edited by

                @Dale-Proctor said in Getzen Club:

                I have a 1960 Conn 6B Victor, and I secure the 3rd valve slide with a black elastic pony tail holder looped around the brace between the lower tuning slide and 3rd valve receivers, with both ends slipped over the finger ring screw. It holds the slide in, but has enough stretch to easily move the slide for intonation help. It has the added bonus of helping return the slide...lol

                I use scrunchies to hold my third valve slides all the way in when the horns are sitting on a stand (not in use). I know many use elastic bands the way you do when playing, but my ring finger refuses to move without a sympathetic movement by both my middle finger and pinky, so the horn wobbles all over. A vulcan grip (using the middle finger) doesn't work for me either. So I'm stuck using my pinky alone to operate the third valve slide. And it's barely strong enough to work a pretty slick slide with no elastic. πŸ˜–

                Getzen Eterna 700, Eterna 800
                Conn Connstellation 28A, Victor 80A, Connqueror (1903)
                ACB Doubler Flugelhorn

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                • Dr GO
                  Dr GO last edited by

                  I am the proud owner of a 1961 Getzen Power Bore and 1974 Getzen Eterna 4-Valve. Both play with exceptional tonal accuracy and the Power Bore is laser accurate in hitting note. Better than any horn I have ever played. And as a large bore horn, plays with minimal resistance.
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                  Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                  Harrelson Summit 2017
                  Kanstul 1526 2012
                  Getzen Power Bore 1961
                  Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                  Martin Committee 1946
                  Olds Super Recording 1940
                  Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                  Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                  Olds Ambassador 1965

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                    Comeback last edited by

                    Thanks for sharing, @Dr-GO ! I have no experience with the Power Bores. What mouthpiece do you use with it? How would you characterize its tonal color? Do you use the 4 valve flugel for gigging? Is it any problem switching back and forth from a 4 valve to a three valve instrument?

                    My Getzens have not seemed to me to be too sensitive to mouthpiece choice. I have been playing my current Sev with a Curry 3C. and am quite happy with the combination.

                    Jim

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                      Comeback last edited by Comeback

                      My mid-70s Severinsen is below. The case is an old Reunion Blues gig bag that still gets a lot of use.

                      Jim

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                      • Dr GO
                        Dr GO @Comeback last edited by Dr GO

                        @Comeback said in Getzen Club:

                        Thanks for sharing, @Dr-GO ! I have no experience with the Power Bores. What mouthpiece do you use with it?

                        Jim

                        Jim I use my Jettone Studio B for 2 reasons. 1) I use the Power Bore for lead playing. 2) The Studio B backbone matches the gap characteristics of the Power Bore leadpipe perfectly.

                        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                        Harrelson Summit 2017
                        Kanstul 1526 2012
                        Getzen Power Bore 1961
                        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                        Martin Committee 1946
                        Olds Super Recording 1940
                        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                        Olds Ambassador 1965

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                        • Dr GO
                          Dr GO @Comeback last edited by

                          @Comeback said in Getzen Club:

                          Thanks for sharing, @Dr-GO ! I have no experience with the Power Bores. How would you characterize its tonal color?
                          Jim
                          Tonal color is bright, crisp and projecting. Perfect as a lead horn.

                          Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                          Harrelson Summit 2017
                          Kanstul 1526 2012
                          Getzen Power Bore 1961
                          Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                          Martin Committee 1946
                          Olds Super Recording 1940
                          Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                          Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                          Olds Ambassador 1965

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                          • Dr GO
                            Dr GO last edited by Dr GO

                            As for the flugelhorn question Jim, I use it for outdoor concerts as it too has a large bore and projects well. I also use it for soft rock and recording more up beat ballads.

                            Here is a link to a recording I made using the Getzen Eterna on an up beat ballad:

                            Switching between 3 and 4 valves is easy as your ears almost guide you into knowing when you will need that quarter tone adjustment and using it to bridge into the pedal tones just feels so natural with 4 valves.

                            Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                            Harrelson Summit 2017
                            Kanstul 1526 2012
                            Getzen Power Bore 1961
                            Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                            Martin Committee 1946
                            Olds Super Recording 1940
                            Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                            Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                            Olds Ambassador 1965

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                            • Dr GO
                              Dr GO last edited by

                              By the way, we have at least 3 well known members here that use the 4 valve Eterna flugelhorn. Rowuk, Vulgano Brother and tmd. It would be nice to get their feedback on this flugelhorn as well.

                              Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                              Harrelson Summit 2017
                              Kanstul 1526 2012
                              Getzen Power Bore 1961
                              Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                              Martin Committee 1946
                              Olds Super Recording 1940
                              Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                              Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                              Olds Ambassador 1965

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                                Comeback last edited by

                                Thank you for all of the great information, Dr GO!

                                Jim

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                                • Kehaulani
                                  Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                  Dr. GO, I thought you played a Committee for everything.

                                  Benge 3X
                                  Martin Committee
                                  Getzen Capri Cornet
                                  Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                  "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                  Charlie Parker

                                  "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                  Chet Baker

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                                    Comeback @Dr GO last edited by

                                    @Dr-GO said in Getzen Club:

                                    As for the flugelhorn question Jim, I use it for outdoor concerts as it too has a large bore and projects well. I also use it for soft rock and recording more up beat ballads.

                                    Here is a link to a recording I made using the Getzen Eterna on an up beat ballad:

                                    Switching between 3 and 4 valves is easy as your ears almost guide you into knowing when you will need that quarter tone adjustment and using it to bridge into the pedal tones just feels so natural with 4 valves.

                                    Listened to that ballad twice, Dr GO. Thank you for posting it. Your fine soloing showcased the Getzen 4 valve flugel effectively. The piano soloing was pretty cool too!

                                    Jim

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                                    • Dr GO
                                      Dr GO @Kehaulani last edited by

                                      @Kehaulani said in Getzen Club:

                                      Dr. GO, I thought you played a Committee for everything.

                                      Nearly everything (at least 80% of my performances) as I play the Committee for most small group ensemble pieces, will use the Kanstul flugelhorn for soft, slow ballads. So these are the two horns that follow me on MOST gigs (as most gigs use the small group - quintet)

                                      I use the Harreslon for big band and large outdoor venues as well as the Getzen flugelhorn at outdoor events.

                                      Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                                      Harrelson Summit 2017
                                      Kanstul 1526 2012
                                      Getzen Power Bore 1961
                                      Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                                      Martin Committee 1946
                                      Olds Super Recording 1940
                                      Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                                      Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                                      Olds Ambassador 1965

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                                      • Dr GO
                                        Dr GO @Comeback last edited by Dr GO

                                        @Comeback said in Getzen Club:

                                        Listened to that ballad twice, Dr GO. Thank you for posting it...The piano soloing was pretty cool too!

                                        Jim

                                        The piano solo was performed by Kenny Drew Jr. Both Kenny Drew and Kenny Barron were contacted by Eddie for this CD and both were wanting to record this, but Eddie chose Kenny Drew due to the high energy of the songs Eddie chose for this album. I think he made an excellent choice with Kenny Drew. Kenny Drew and our drummer, Mark Lomax really fed on each other's energy as you may have noted from listening to these recordings. This album has a song called Trane Thing where both Kenny and Mark just explode with the emotion, certainly not a recording for the weak of heart!

                                        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                                        Harrelson Summit 2017
                                        Kanstul 1526 2012
                                        Getzen Power Bore 1961
                                        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                                        Martin Committee 1946
                                        Olds Super Recording 1940
                                        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                                        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                                        Olds Ambassador 1965

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                                          Comeback last edited by Comeback

                                          I had mentioned in my initial post that I once owned a Getzen Eterna 900 Classic. I thought I would share my impressions of the horn. I bought the Classic because I wanted one brand new horn for my trumpet comeback effort. I had researched it, and relying on my positive experience with Severinsens, made the decision to buy. I was a little surprised when I received it because there was a bit of a problem with one valve. I was not surprised at all by Getzen’s response to my report of the issue. They took care of the problem right away and I had a fine new trumpet.

                                          The Classic is promoted like this by Getzen: β€œNumerous requests from fans of the early 900 convinced the Getzen Company to return to the original specifications and reintroduce the trumpet as the 900 Eterna Classic.” I found this to be fairly accurate. Playing characteristics are nearly identical. There are some differences though. Some of these can be seen by comparing the photo of my current Sev with the photo of the Classic below. The wrap on the Classic is a little tighter than the Sev. There are slight differences in the bell shape too, which I found when fitting mutes. However, I found no shortcomings with my Classic. It met all of my expectations. The only reason I parted with it was due to a health condition I developed a couple years ago that seemed to spell the end of my trumpet playing days. Thankfully the health issue is behind me now. I miss my Classic, but my current Sev fills that void.

                                          Jim

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                                          • Kehaulani
                                            Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

                                            Does Classic, in this sense, mean the Severinsen?

                                            Since it's new, contractual obligations may prohibit the name Severinsen. So does the Classic actually hearken back to the Severinsen or are they two different horns?

                                            Benge 3X
                                            Martin Committee
                                            Getzen Capri Cornet
                                            Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

                                            "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                                            Charlie Parker

                                            "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
                                            Chet Baker

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