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    So you have a cornet with extra slides

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    • ?
      A Former User last edited by

      Say you have acquired a cornet that is built on the style of the Conn Perfect Wonder from around 1907 and a couple extra weird slides come in the case....and you don't know how to hook them up. Ergonomic wasn't a word back then and it isn't altogether obvious how to do this trick. And when you are through hooking the thing up you will have converted a perfectly good B flat horn into a A that's now days pretty useless.....however.... it's fun to know how.

      Study the photos carefully. I went to some trouble to do this because I was feeling guilty reading about how too many meaningless and uninformative posts...like the ones I usually make are on this site. And... I assure you this is the actual way to do this attachment thing even though it looks ridiculous.

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      • Kehaulani
        Kehaulani Credentialed Professional last edited by

        Eeegad! What did you eventually come up with?

        Benge 3X
        Martin Committee
        Getzen Capri Cornet
        Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

        "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
        Charlie Parker

        "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
        Chet Baker

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        • ?
          A Former User @Kehaulani last edited by

          @Kehaulani Something you didn't know about apparently. 👏

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          • Kehaulani
            Kehaulani Credentialed Professional @Guest last edited by Kehaulani

            @Niner said in So you have a cornet with extra slides:

            @Kehaulani Something you didn't know about apparently.

            Absolutely right. I am not, nor ever have been, a gearhead or musical instrument historian. Thank goodness there are those who are.

            Benge 3X
            Martin Committee
            Getzen Capri Cornet
            Adams F-1 Flugelhorn

            "If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
            Charlie Parker

            "Even if I could play like Wynton Marsalis, I wouldn't play like Wynton Marsalis."
            Chet Baker

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            • barliman2001
              barliman2001 Global Moderator last edited by

              The A slides can come in handy, though... I once had to play an Easter Sunday gig in church... Mozart Organ Solo Mass (trumpet in C). What the conductor had not mentioned was that for Holy Communion, the choir and orchestra were to perform the Haec Dies by Caspar Ett, which asks for a trumpet in A... Luckily, I never go to gigs without some extra hardware "for emergencies". Usually, when using the C, this emergency hooter is a 1920s Buescher with a Bb-to-A switch valve... one turn of the screw, and Caspar Ett was performed by the trumpet asked for.

              Courtois Balanced
              Courtois D
              Olds Recording
              Buescher Aristocrat
              Gaudet C
              Selmer G
              Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
              Besson International Bb cornet
              Courtois Bb cornet
              B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
              B&H Sovereign trombone
              Willy Garreis trombone
              Weltklang Euph

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                A Former User @barliman2001 last edited by A Former User

                @barliman2001 You know the valve switch was made with it's own serial number and added to a horn as an option during final production. If my ear is right, the shift forward to horizontal is the Bflat selection and straight up is the A. Images from a vintage York and sons. Lots easier than the cornet.

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                • barliman2001
                  barliman2001 Global Moderator @Guest last edited by

                  @Niner You are correct as to York horns. With Buescher, the extra valve gave a different type number.

                  Courtois Balanced
                  Courtois D
                  Olds Recording
                  Buescher Aristocrat
                  Gaudet C
                  Selmer G
                  Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                  Besson International Bb cornet
                  Courtois Bb cornet
                  B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                  B&H Sovereign trombone
                  Willy Garreis trombone
                  Weltklang Euph

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                    A Former User @barliman2001 last edited by A Former User

                    @barliman2001 In what way? The York trumpet serial number is different from the valve serial number because the valve wasn't made in line with the trumpet and could have been put on any trumpet that it would fit. I don't understand what you are saying. What kind of different number would the Buescher use?

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                    • barliman2001
                      barliman2001 Global Moderator @Guest last edited by

                      @Niner For example, a Buescher trumpet would be type # 9 without the Bb/A valve, and be designated #12 with the valve. The valve did not have a separate serial number.

                      Courtois Balanced
                      Courtois D
                      Olds Recording
                      Buescher Aristocrat
                      Gaudet C
                      Selmer G
                      Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                      Besson International Bb cornet
                      Courtois Bb cornet
                      B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                      B&H Sovereign trombone
                      Willy Garreis trombone
                      Weltklang Euph

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                      • ?
                        A Former User @barliman2001 last edited by

                        @barliman2001 Thanks. I didn't know that.

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