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      N1684T last edited by

      I have only had a handful of Bueschers over the last 3 years, but am extremely impressed with them. The first 2 were "400's" so it was expected to be a good horn. Got my first "Aristocrat" recently, their student line, and It appears to have gotten the same valve block as the 400. Damn near a work of art. This was roughly a 59 model. 60 years old and cleaned up nicely. No dents, just a rough finish. Shame their isn't a better market for them. Appears to be better built than even the Olds models of the same era. Around 63, Buescher was sold, and the name was around a while, but they were not the same quality.

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        N1684T last edited by

        Its also braced more like an Olds Special. Probably why it tends to resonate more......

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        • barliman2001
          barliman2001 Global Moderator @N1684T last edited by

          @N1684T said in Buescher Trumpets:

          Got my first "Aristocrat" recently, their student line

          Well, from what I've seen and played, to describe their Aristocrats as "student line" is erroneous. They had a student line called "Elkhart by Buescher" - still very good instruments, but not on the same top level as the Aristocrats.

          Courtois Balanced
          Courtois D
          Olds Recording
          Buescher Aristocrat
          Gaudet C
          Selmer G
          Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
          Besson International Bb cornet
          Courtois Bb cornet
          B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
          B&H Sovereign trombone
          Willy Garreis trombone
          Weltklang Euph

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            N1684T last edited by

            Might explain it. Probably is a mid line or intermediate.

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            • barliman2001
              barliman2001 Global Moderator @N1684T last edited by

              @N1684T Nix. The Aristocrat instruments that I have are all top-notch.

              Courtois Balanced
              Courtois D
              Olds Recording
              Buescher Aristocrat
              Gaudet C
              Selmer G
              Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
              Besson International Bb cornet
              Courtois Bb cornet
              B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
              B&H Sovereign trombone
              Willy Garreis trombone
              Weltklang Euph

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                N1684T last edited by

                I will post some pics later. Might even get this thing refinished. Really seems to come alive, even with my meager skills;)

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                • JorgePD
                  JorgePD last edited by

                  I've never had my hands on an Aristocrat, but I have a 1947 Buescher 400 Model 225 and it's a great horn. Looks as good as it plays.

                  1947 Buescher 400 Model 225
                  1957 Olds Ambassador

                  Trumpet practice drives me crazy, but playing keeps me sane.

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                    Osren last edited by

                    The early 60s Aristocrats were STILL good quality horns.... by the time the 70s rolled around, they were "good" horns, but not made with the LOVE and craftsmenship of previous years.

                    There are two sides to a trumpet's personality. There is the one that lives only to lay waste to everyone else, leaving them lying blue and lifeless alongside the swath of destruction that is the trumpeter's fury
                    And then, there is the DARK side
                    --Soren--

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                    • barliman2001
                      barliman2001 Global Moderator @Osren last edited by

                      @Osren said in Buescher Trumpets:

                      The early 60s Aristocrats were STILL good quality horns.... by the time the 70s rolled around, they were "good" horns, but not made with the LOVE and craftsmenship of previous years.

                      I'm with you there. But the "real" Aristocrats were the instruments of the 1930s and 1940s. My 265 cornet is dated 1931...

                      Courtois Balanced
                      Courtois D
                      Olds Recording
                      Buescher Aristocrat
                      Gaudet C
                      Selmer G
                      Courtois 154 Flugelhorn
                      Besson International Bb cornet
                      Courtois Bb cornet
                      B&H Sovereign Soprano Cornet
                      B&H Sovereign trombone
                      Willy Garreis trombone
                      Weltklang Euph

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                        N1684T last edited by

                        I know somewhere in the mid to late 60's, they no longer used that classic Buescher valve block. Kind of a generic looking one. Probably used up all the parts they had then something else. Just HOW MANY brands did Selmer buy out? Obviously, Selmer was run better and was profitable, and most likely other brands didn't adapt fast enough.

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