Real Strad?

tptguy

I would like comments regarding this trumpet bought as a Bach Strad. by a buddy of mine.
Although, slides caps, pistons interchange and work as they should with a "real" *37 lightweight.. Some aspects are disturbing
-Bell script says had crafted in the USA
-Script is rather shalow
-Serial number starts with 3 zeros ( 000..
-3rd. slide stop is Bach Commercial Bb style(like Yamaha)
-Water key and screw corners feel rounder, not as sharp
-Pull knobs are rounder
-Detail on slide tubes is different(grooved end)

Thank you to all
G.

J. Jericho

I agree that it looks suspicious at best.

tptguy

We used my '74 model 37 light weight body and bell to compare. If it wasn't for the 3rd slide stop, serial number and strange bell script, you would swear it's the real thing, sitting in a section and you couldn't tell if the guy next to you had it in his hands. It also plays/sounds the same(to my ears) and it could weigh a few oz. more also.
Has the Monel pistons, finger ring and thumb saddle mounts are identical, pinky hook similar but different.

G.

Newell Post

Hard to tell from just the one photo, but it sounds like a pretty good fake. But a fake nonetheless.

Dale Proctor

It’s a real Bach, a model 182 made in their Eastlake, Ohio facility around 2007. The bells read “Handcrafted in the U.S.A”.

“The Bach Stradivarius model 182 trumpet features a standard weight #37 one piece bell and #25 leadpipe, a lightweight body and a .459” bore. This particular combination, along with traditional Bach design values and classic features, responds quickly and delivers a quality of sound that is distinctly Bach. The instrument outfit includes a genuine gold plated Vincent Bach mouthpiece and a professional classic style case. The instrument is available in bright silver plate.”

tptguy

Thank you Dale...of all the strange things about this trumpet( I had never seen a model 182) the serial number starting with 3 zeros was(is) the most concerning to me. But I value your knowledge.
Tk's again

G.

J. Jericho

@dale-proctor said in Real Strad?:

It’s a real Bach, a model 182 made in their Eastlake, Ohio facility around 2007. The bells read “Handcrafted in the U.S.A”.

“The Bach Stradivarius model 182 trumpet features a standard weight #37 one piece bell and #25 leadpipe, a lightweight body and a .459” bore. This particular combination, along with traditional Bach design values and classic features, responds quickly and delivers a quality of sound that is distinctly Bach. The instrument outfit includes a genuine gold plated Vincent Bach mouthpiece and a professional classic style case. The instrument is available in bright silver plate.”

After reading your post, I found this on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/284652696896?epid=8052393000&hash=item42469f7540%3Ag%3ANzkAAOSwwzZiCa2a&nma=true&si=4rhGi5j7KVyF1AJ%252F6wZShPrdhfI%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Dale Proctor

@tptguy said in Real Strad?:

Thank you Dale...of all the strange things about this trumpet( I had never seen a model 182) the serial number starting with 3 zeros was(is) the most concerning to me. But I value your knowledge.
Tk's again

G.

You’re welcome. Yes, the serial numbers for those didn’t follow the Bach numbering progression, either. They were made during the Elkhart Bach factory strike as a way to maintain a minimal level of production until the strike was settled.

administrator

It's a real Bach, as far as I can tell from the one photo you posted. If you would like to post more, we can discern it more clearly. Everything seems to check out to me.