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    • Dale Proctor
      Dale Proctor last edited by Dale Proctor

      I just won a 1976 or 1977 (if the serial numbers are in the same sequence as the Strads) Bach Mercedes trumpet on eBay. First horn I’ve bought in years, but I couldn’t pass it up. It was listed as a Mercedes II, but it isn’t, and my winning bid was pretty low. Looks to be mostly Stradivarius parts, but has a 2-piece bell (which most sources say is a 38 taper), no nickel trim, no tuning slide brace, and no 3rd valve stop and dump slide. The 3rd valve slide has a water key and an adjustable finger ring. It looks to have some red rot on the leadpipe, but if I keep it and it needs repair in the future, that’s not too serious to have repaired.

      I haven’t received it yet, so I don’t know how it will play, but I’m hoping it’s good enough to use as a substitute for my Stradivarius in “high traffic” situations.

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      1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
      1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
      1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
      1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
      1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
      1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
      1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
      1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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      • administrator
        administrator Global Moderator last edited by

        Was it a good deal?

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        • Dale Proctor
          Dale Proctor @administrator last edited by

          @administrator said in 1970s Bach Mercedes trumpet:

          Was it a good deal?

          I think it was…$175.

          1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
          1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
          1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
          1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
          1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
          1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
          1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
          1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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          • J. Jericho
            J. Jericho Global Moderator last edited by

            Looks nice. Good luck with it. Some suitable replacement leadpipes are affordable, so if you need to go that route, you won't break the bank.

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            • Dale Proctor
              Dale Proctor last edited by Dale Proctor

              The Bach Mercedes arrived today. I measured the bore, and it’s the .456” size, which Bach called an MP (medium plus) bore. It’s in pretty decent shape, valves are great, slides are all free, and it and seems to play well. It feels noticeably lighter than my Stradivarius. I’ll take it to a rehearsal next week to see if it plays well with others… 🙂
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              1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
              1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
              1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
              1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
              1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
              1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
              1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
              1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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              • Dale Proctor
                Dale Proctor last edited by

                The Mercedes plays well with others! I played it in a 1 hour church orchestra rehearsal tonight, and was pretty pleased with it. The sound doesn’t have quite as much body as my Stradivarius does, but it played very well in tune and had a slightly easier upper register than my Strad. Reading some older reviews of the later Elkhart Mercedes had me worried about the possibility of a horn that wouldn’t play in tune, but this one is a good one.

                1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                • Dale Proctor
                  Dale Proctor last edited by

                  Still playing the Mercedes, and tired of the awkward 3rd slide ring assembly. I took the horn to Southeastern Musical Services and asked them to replace it with a fixed ring I had bought on eBay. About a week later I picked it up - old adjustable ring assembly removed, new ring soldered on, slide polished and relacquered, all for $50.

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                  1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                  1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                  1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                  1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                  1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                  1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                  1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                  1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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