Question About King 2055 Silver Flair

[sagster]

I noticed some say 2055S and some say 2055T, What is the difference between them?

I am not a player and know nothing about them, I am researching for my niece who does play and asked for a 2055T

[chef8489]

@sagster The 2055t has a 1st trigger while the 2055s has a 1st saddle.

[Trumpetb]

Then some care in selection is needed because I have seen many 2055S instruments advertised some carry a trigger and some carry a saddle.

Commonly 2055S appears to be advertised as an S model if it is silver.

It appears that many sellers get it wrong so this must be watched for or the wrong model may be chosen simply because the sellers do not appear to understand the model designation.

It is a gotya.

On King, I have a great respect for King (and H.N. White aka King) great company great instruments.

Silver Flair is a great choice IMHO however it has to be said that the Silver Flair model 1055T is the preferred model to go for.

Playing should reveal if the 2055S or T meets your expectations.

[chef8489]

@trumpetb all King 2055 models were silver. The s designated it had a saddle. The t was trigger. The 2055tub was trigger with up turned bell liked the dizzy model. The 2055dz was the dizzy Gillespie endorsed model. They had both the upturned bell model as well as the straight bell, but this model had the saddle and an etched image of Dizzy on the bell.

As far as the 1055t being better, yes it is than the 2055t, however, the 2055t is still a great horn especially for the price and can hold its own against a bach 37. They can be had on used market usually under 1k and usually around 500-700 in mint condition. For a high school kid or college kid it would be on heck of a horn on a budget and last and blends well with the bachs and Yamaha.

I collect and research King trumpets

[Trumpetb]

Yes I know that chef8489

What I am saying is if you look at the offers to sell there are many 2055S models offered some have triggers and some have saddles.

The sellers appear to base the model number in their description as a 2055S simply because the instrument is silver.

I have seen many 2055S models on offer that have triggers so these are really 2055T models not 2055S models

So if the OP grabs a 2055S without seeing it first and expecting it to have a saddle it may arrive with a trigger.

Alternatively seeking a 2055T and rejecting 2055S instruments may cause the instruments with triggers to be rejected simply because the 2055T is wrongly advertised as a 2055S

That is the gotya I am talking about

The sellers are the ones who do not know the S states saddle not silver, not me.

And as for your info I agree with all of it, I did say that King instruments are great instruments.

I simply said that the 1055T is the preferred model which I believe you have also said.

So really you are disagreeing with me when I am not disagreeing with you.

[chef8489]

@trumpetb i agree and see your gotcha comment.
There are a lot of people that disregard the 2055t or tell people ti pass on it because conn selmer markets it as an intermediate horn. truthfully it really isnt too much different than the 2000at the preceded it and Conn selmer just doesn't want any competition with its Bach Strad, thus it's intermediate class on it.

I have owned multiple 2055t over the years. One in 1997 one in 2010, and one in 2016. All were great horns. Unfortunately they get sold for one reason or another. Either a friend needs a horn or something in my life happens.

[Trumpetb]

Thank you chef 8489,

I totally agree that many instruments designated today as student or intermediate instruments made by the great makers such as Conn Olds and King were nothing of the kind but were very high quality instruments beyond the capabilities of most players.

And the King 2055T is one of those as you quite rightly say.

I would be proud to own a 2055T or S, and the OP's niece has made a great choice in selecting that instrument.