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    Traits that make a great sight reader?

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    • GeorgeB
      GeorgeB @Richard III last edited by

      @richard-iii

      Yeah, I'm guilty.

      1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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      • fels
        fels last edited by

        I agree with Rowuk's earlier comments as a fundamental basis for sight reading. I will add:

        Like any other skill -- you have do do it a lot. Accept sub invitations, play pieces you have not seen before.

        Take a few minutes to survey the piece and perhaps mark the score. OK, the purists a say that is no longer sight reading. But down beats are down beats and a little visual reminder helps.

        Listen to those around you. Accepting the music will help in terms of understanding your part and being able to play on sight.

        Schilke x3
        Bach Strad 37
        Courtois Flugel

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        • BigDub
          BigDub @fels last edited by

          @fels said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

          I agree with Rowuk's earlier comments as a fundamental basis for sight reading. I will add:

          Like any other skill -- you have do do it a lot. Accept sub invitations, play pieces you have not seen before.

          Take a few minutes to survey the piece and perhaps mark the score. OK, the purists a say that is no longer sight reading. But down beats are down beats and a little visual reminder helps.

          Listen to those around you. Accepting the music will help in terms of understanding your part and being able to play on sight.

          This is very good. As I read this, I realize these are things I have been trying to do. It has helped, for sure. The point is, I think there are traits that enable some to be naturally better at sight reading than people like myself, who struggle with it more.
          Often there is no time to preview a piece. There’s a book full of music, and you don’t always have an idea what is going to come up next, so you might have but a few moments to get an overview of it.
          It is like everything else, really. Practice, repetition ( but with different music every time ) and scan ahead a little wherever possible.

          GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
          Assorted other mp's not used
          ( not very unusual….right? )

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          • GeorgeB
            GeorgeB last edited by

            If you are playing a new piece, and if you have the time, scanning it is number one on my list. I'll sing it to myself while making mental notes.
            Unfortunately you don't always have the time to scan, Sometimes it's just a quick peek and away you go.

            1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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            • Dr GO
              Dr GO @BigDub last edited by

              @bigdub said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

              @fels said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:
              Often there is no time to preview a piece. There’s a book full of music, and you don’t always have an idea what is going to come up next, so you might have but a few moments to get an overview of it.

              Perhaps a course in speed reading may help your sight reading skills!

              Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
              Harrelson Summit 2017
              Kanstul 1526 2012
              Getzen Power Bore 1961
              Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
              Martin Committee 1946
              Olds Super Recording 1940
              Olds Recording (LA) 1953
              Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
              Olds Ambassador 1965

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              • BigDub
                BigDub @Dr GO last edited by

                @dr-go said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                @bigdub said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                @fels said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:
                Often there is no time to preview a piece. There’s a book full of music, and you don’t always have an idea what is going to come up next, so you might have but a few moments to get an overview of it.

                Perhaps a course in speed reading may help your sight reading skills!

                Sounds like homework.

                GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
                Assorted other mp's not used
                ( not very unusual….right? )

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                • Curlydoc
                  Curlydoc @BigDub last edited by

                  @bigdub I use the For Score program on my large iPad . I have all the trumpet parts for all of our community band’s repertoire loaded. I can quickly create or change playlists. The first time I look at a piece, I use my finger to highlight in red the important data such as key changes, codas , etc. If our director makes changes, it is easy to add them or remove them. It is much lighter and less fuss than hauling big folders of paper to practices and gigs. No additional music light is needed. Page turning can be done with a finger tap or a foot pedal. Revolutionary!

                  David McNeil Ferguson PhD, MD
                  Grand Marais, Minnesota

                  2018 Jaeger Studio Bb. Jaeger 3M MP.
                  1962 Olds Super Bb.

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                  • Richard III
                    Richard III @Curlydoc last edited by

                    @curlydoc said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                    @bigdub I use the For Score program on my large iPad . I have all the trumpet parts for all of our community band’s repertoire loaded. I can quickly create or change playlists. The first time I look at a piece, I use my finger to highlight in red the important data such as key changes, codas , etc. If our director makes changes, it is easy to add them or remove them. It is much lighter and less fuss than hauling big folders of paper to practices and gigs. No additional music light is needed. Page turning can be done with a finger tap or a foot pedal. Revolutionary!

                    LMAO. Yup, old guy used the stupid letters. Anyway, all that sounds great until the thing malfunctions right in the middle of a performance. I've seen it happen to others. "Sorry, folks, were going to take a break while I get my device working again."

                    I'd love to find a device that shows three pages at the same time so no page turns are necessary. Anybody have one?

                    Richard III

                    1977 Olds Ambassador Cornet

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                    • BigDub
                      BigDub last edited by

                      I am not joking here. I see a possible app or program coming where the player will be able to see a progress bar running below the staff indicating a very close proximity to where one should be in the music.
                      The tempo would have to be adhered to, naturally. I could see this being possible.
                      I would definitely like something like that.

                      GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
                      Assorted other mp's not used
                      ( not very unusual….right? )

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                      • Dr GO
                        Dr GO @BigDub last edited by Dr GO

                        @bigdub said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                        ...I see a possible app or program coming where the player will be able to see a progress bar running below the staff indicating a very close proximity to where one should be in the music.
                        The tempo would have to be adhered to, naturally. I could see this being possible.
                        I would definitely like something like that.

                        Even better, the player can progress to the bar, order and then consume a gin and tonic, inhabitations then released, go back to the stage and read through the music like a pro at a tempo whatever the player damn well sees fit to play without stifling limitations!

                        I definitely like something like that.

                        Allora Pocket Trumpet 2014
                        Harrelson Summit 2017
                        Kanstul 1526 2012
                        Getzen Power Bore 1961
                        Getzen Eterna 4-Valve Fulgelhorn 1974
                        Martin Committee 1946
                        Olds Super Recording 1940
                        Olds Recording (LA) 1953
                        Olds Recording (Fullerton) 1967
                        Olds Ambassador 1965

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                        • Dale Proctor
                          Dale Proctor last edited by

                          What we really need is an app that just plays the dang trumpet for us...

                          1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                          1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                          1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                          1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                          1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                          1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                          1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                          1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                          • BigDub
                            BigDub @Dale Proctor last edited by

                            @dale-proctor said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                            What we really need is an app that just plays the dang trumpet for us...
                            I know you don’t want that

                            GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
                            Assorted other mp's not used
                            ( not very unusual….right? )

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                            • Dale Proctor
                              Dale Proctor @BigDub last edited by

                              @bigdub said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                              @dale-proctor said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                              What we really need is an app that just plays the dang trumpet for us...

                              I know you don’t want that

                              Of course I was joking, but I don’t want to follow the bouncing ball on an iPad that turns the pages for me, either...😁

                              1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                              1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                              1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                              1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                              1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                              1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                              1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                              1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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                              • BigDub
                                BigDub @Dale Proctor last edited by

                                @dale-proctor said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                                @bigdub said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                                @dale-proctor said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                                What we really need is an app that just plays the dang trumpet for us...

                                I know you don’t want that

                                Of course I was joking, but I don’t want to follow the bouncing ball on an iPad that turns the pages for me, either...😁

                                True.

                                GETZEN Eterna 900, S.E. Shires C Trumpet, Custom Shires 3c MP, Shires 1 1/2 C MP
                                Assorted other mp's not used
                                ( not very unusual….right? )

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                                • GeorgeB
                                  GeorgeB last edited by

                                  Well at 85 I wouldn't mind having an app that played the dang trumpet for me. I just play for the applause anyway.

                                  1960s King Super 20 Silversonic, 1940 Olds Recording, 1942 Buescher True Tone 400 ,1999 Conn Vintage One Bb trumpet, A 1952 Selmer Paris, A 2020 Getzen 400 and a Manchester Brass ACB custom pro Bb trumpet, a 1962 Conn Victor 5A Cornet.

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                                  • Dale Proctor
                                    Dale Proctor @GeorgeB last edited by

                                    @georgeb said in Traits that make a great sight reader?:

                                    Well at 85 I wouldn't mind having an app that played the dang trumpet for me. I just play for the applause anyway.

                                    I guess you could buy one of those electronic bugles that plays Taps and use it for military funerals, but there would be no applause...

                                    1977 Bach Strad ML 43 trumpet
                                    1960 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
                                    1982 Bach Strad ML 239 C trumpet
                                    1970 Olds Ambassador Eb/D trumpet
                                    1993 Bach Strad L 184G cornet
                                    1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
                                    1890 Besson A/Bb/C cornet
                                    1870? Henry Lehnert SARV cornet

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