Bach doesn't make the same claim for their 500 and 600, but I don't know if there's a price difference between those and the 300.

@conndirectorfan That would be annoying. Breaking valves in can be a hassle. Someone had recommended wiping and reoiling often and more bathing the first few weeks.

How does the blow on the Liberty compare to the Ingrim? I have a liberty also (at my parents' house) and it is that more-old style, smaller bore sound. Except for the one large bore, my trumpets are all ML, so I've thought of trying something smaller.

One reason I got into them is that I can try out different aspects. I'm a comeback player was just really curious how different instruments perform. The Mauriat 600 is heavier, the 655 is a large bore, one of the Carols has a lot of nickel and plays bright, etc.

I also found as a doubler I just really enjoy the flugelhorn and the piccolo. Honestly a lot of us who play are doing this just for fun, so we have a different relationship to gear than professionals, who need something standard that can be tweaked.

I haven't compared the Jupiter professional vs intermediate line, but am curious. I really like the 1100 flugelhorn and found it easy to adjust to. I'm curious how their 1600 line plays.

Harmonie does make their own valves, I believe. On the local facebook market there are two for sale and I've met Canadian players in Taiwan who really like them. Mine I bought 2nd hand and I like it. I'm curious what their market/model is; I think they make for the domestic market under their own name and also design horns for international makers.

Just going to offer a quick shoutout to Taiwanese trumpets. I travel through the region and have been collecting a mix of instruments. I now have a jupiter pic and flugelhorn, about six Carolbrass, two Mauriats, and another local maker (Harmonie). Fun instruments!