Sadly I've never found anything about Amati mouthpieces beyond the pages you see here, and a chart/table showing specifications of trumpets/cornets from the 1980s - it shows the standard mouthpieces included with different models, but it basically is just the 7C/7E...
They never published a mouthpiece catalog on its own that anyone remembers, and the catalogs I've seen barely discuss them. What you see in the links is everything I've ever found...
I'd agree that the rims are flatter than Bach equivalents, though I'd also say they were sometimes very odd - I've encountered 3 or 4 pre-2000 7Cs that have a sharp inner bite, with a rim that slopes downward from there. The rim itself is wide, flat, but slopes down toward the outside! Not especially comfortable.
I've had several other Bach-influenced ones with the same characteristic, except for a few.
I have two 7EW versions, one stamped Czech Republic, the other nothing [just the model]. The model stamp is atrocious, but the rim is extremely flat and broad. The rim bite is not higher than the rest of the rim, and the cup is much tinier and shallower than any 7EW Bach ever made! It's a bit hard to play long-term, but for a useless trick-shot Double High E-flat intro on "Chameleon", it's a neat piece!
The Circe piccolo piece is a bit wide, but still nicely made. It's not nearly as extreme as the 7EW...!
I have photos of the various ones sold, which I'll probably post at some point.
I have the 3 and 10 cornet pieces, copied from Bach as well. They're pretty close and are done quite well. The trumpet 10 has a different rim, but still is decent.
As far as the older ones, I've encountered various "MADE IN / CZECHO / SLOVAKIA" models, some with the pre-war serif stamp, most with the post-war sans-serif stamp. Some have the Ⓐ & number stamp, most do not. These often have wide, flat rims and round rim bite, and while not super distinguished or special, still play okay. At some point these weren't considered good enough, so they started explicitly copying other versions. I think the H2W might be a nod to Meister Hablowetz [Hablawetz also...
Rudy Muck pieces are all over the place, possibly due to the licensing arrangements and just plain inconsistency.
The newer heavyweight ones are another breed entirely. They're consistent, but the designs changed - the 2000s 7EW has a super-round, super-wide rim like a half-circle cross-section. There is no bite to speak of. The cup is shallow, but it was hard to play - I sold it to a friend who is often overseas, so chances of borrowing or buying it back to have scanned are low. Asking Amati to buy a new one resulted in "Klier makes our current mouthpieces"...so acquiring one is probably out of the question.
The 3 and 10 are different than the older cornet versions, but still respectable.
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@ConnDirectorFan Unique prospects! I am having some of the Amati trumpet older MPCs, by my amateur feeling they were made more by the older VB flatter rim (my subjective feel). I know some of the unusual ones such as the double cup H2W (something like Selmer Special), but I did not meet the RM1. As far as I have few RMs Made in the USA and Made in England and although they have the same description, they are quite different in size and look (17C,19C and some 18M). Do you have the MPC prospect complete to see it in full? I miss there the some of the standard ones, such as 1, 1C, 1 1/2C etc. I miss there the 7E, 7CW etc. I played them about 40 years ago in the 80s and I am returning to them to find, that they are really not bad sounding.