Keep it simple - no profanity, no name calling, nothing unrelated to trumpets/cornets/flugelhorns/etc. and musical topics in general. That gives topics a pretty wide latitude without excessive rules. Be civil to your fellow members if there’s a disagreement on some point, and keep things PG in case younger people are looking in.
Best posts made by Dale Proctor
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RE: Seeking input on Rules
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Railroad Photography
Anyone here into photographing railroad subjects? Years ago, I was interested in both photography and trains, and took a lot of photos of them, mostly with an old Miranda 35mm camera. I still like photography, but I don’t chase trains any more...lol
Anyway, to get things started, I’ll post a few of the ones I’ve taken for any who are interested. Feel free to post any you have taken, but please don’t post generic pics found on the net.
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RE: Hello! Welcome to TB, who are you?
@N1684T said in Hello! Welcome to TB, who are you?:
I found a copy of American Drummer Boy on Ebay. Love civil war stuff.....
I ran across this screen shot of me playing Eb cornet in the movie. That’s me on the end by the stair.
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Happy 4th of July!
Hope you all have a happy and safe upcoming 4th, even those of you in other countries. Here’s a photo I took a number of years ago that is appropriate.
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RE: How about a "Random Meaningless Image...let's see them string"?
I saw this cool jazz trio on a walk through the neighborhood this morning. Can you dig it?
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Henry Lehnert SARV Cornet, ca 1870
Took some new pics of this cool little cornet. Made from German silver, oval-port Allen valves.
Note: If you click on the pictures, they are higher resolution.
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1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
A few new glamour shots of a rare instrument...
...click on the photos for higher resolution...
Latest posts made by Dale Proctor
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RE: The past lives on and we are judged by it
I would not appreciate anyone recording me when I practice. I usually work on exercises and pieces I can’t play (or can’t play very well). That’s a big part of the path to improvement, and is not meant for public consumption. As for the warts recorded in a public performance, one of the guys in our band would say “That’s the beauty of live music.” Many audiences just appreciate the music, and a glitch here or there just shows we are all human. There are also the folks who revel in picking out mistakes, and even if the performance was 99.9% perfect, they focus on that one wrong or out of tune note, sloppy articulation, etc. Unfortunately, I used to be my own worst critic, but now I’m happy if most of what I play is good, and I have a short memory for the occasional wart. My response to critics is, if you can do better, come on up on stage and show me…
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RE: The past lives on and we are judged by it
My junior high band director told me I’d never be any good as a trumpet player, and after fighting the instrument for about 58 years, I’m beginning to think he was right…
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RE: Easter 2024
Happy Easter! I played a Good Friday service, a 3-hour rehearsal on Wednesday night, a Tenebrae service, and an Easter service. Around 10 orchestral pieces, about half of them with the choir, and uncounted hymns (luckily not playing on every verse). I’m worn out, and am taking a few days off without touching a mouthpiece to my lips.
Our orchestra played through Handel’s 'Worthy is the Lamb that was slain’ two times in a rehearsal Easter morning before the church service, and the third time, it was the last piece we played in the service. I played 1st part on my Bb trumpet. Brutal…
EDIT: I forgot to mention that I played the 1st Cornet part on Schuman’s ‘When Jesus Wept' at the Tenebrae service on Friday night. I rarely get to play cornet in our church orchestra, so it was a treat!!
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RE: Matt silver American Standard High Grade Cleveland
H. N. White (the maker of King musical instruments) bought the Cleveland Musical Instrument Company in 1925. Cleveland’s line of instruments were named “American Standard”, and had a good reputation for being quality instruments for the price. H. N. White bought the company to provide a line (Cleveland) of less expensive instruments to go with his King line.
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RE: Conn 22B Trumpet ?
@rleegabe said in Conn 22B Trumpet ?:
Looking at buying a Conn 22B Trumpet but having trouble telling what model it is. It reads 22B the serial number is 5 542159 can't tell if it's a Victor, New York Symphony, or other. Assuming there is a 5 and a long space to the rest of the serial number it's a later year. But would really like to know what model it is. Would anyone have that information?
The serial # isn’t a vintage Conn number. If the bell to leadpipe braces are slanted, it’s a recent student model Director, not a “real” Conn 22B. Also look for USA stamped near the bottom of the 2nd valve case - if it’s there, it’s a 22B Director, not a Victor or New York Symphony.
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RE: Conn Continental Clarion Silver Trumpet
@rleegabe said in Conn Continental Clarion Silver Trumpet:
Yes it did, I was outbid and lost it, really had my heart set on this one.
Sorry you missed out on it. Keep your eyes open and something similar (or better) will come along.
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RE: Conn Continental Clarion Silver Trumpet
Does it actually say Conn anywhere on it? I had a trumpet that looked almost exactly like that one, and it said Crusader on the bell. A lot of the features appear to be Conn-like, but it wasn’t a Conn and didn’t play well at all.
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RE: Same high quality as Recording models
@Dr-GO said in Same high quality as Recording models:
@Dale-Proctor said in Same high quality as Recording models:
Yep, like I said, you can find a few pros in the past playing jazz on an Ambassador and they work pretty well in that genre. I played lead in a big band for a while on an L.A. Ambassador, and it was ok, but it sure wasn’t suited for “legit” music.
Dale, I agree with you entirely. I have never played my Ambassador for "legit" music as it just cannot live up to the quality of sound you get from more seasoned horns. I just love that the Ambassador when high quality musicians play it can show off it's jazz sound potential.
If I remember correctly, you have a really nice one! I eventually stripped all the spotty lacquer off my ‘52 model, had Amado water keys put on it, and removed the forward bell brace and lyre/finger ring holder. I played it most of the time with a Schilke 13A4a with a throat drilled to a 25.
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RE: Same high quality as Recording models
@Dr-GO said in Same high quality as Recording models:
@Dale-Proctor said in Same high quality as Recording models:
An Ambassador isn’t a Recording. They share some basic parts, but Ambassadors are built to a price point and are well-built low tier instruments that play ok. I’ve owned 3 (two trumpets and one cornet) and that’s my assessment. They are not instruments that players would want to use in any professional-level genre of music, with the possible exception of jazz/ragtime.
Lee Morgan played this cut on an Ambassador. This is my favorite jazz song ever. I was mystified when I found out this was am Ambassador.
Yep, like I said, you can find a few pros in the past playing jazz on an Ambassador and they work pretty well in that genre. I played lead in a big band for a while on an L.A. Ambassador, and it was ok, but it sure wasn’t suited for “legit” music.
I should note that the cornet I had was a ‘49, the trumpet I played in big band was a ‘52, and the other Ambassador trumpet was from the late 1960s. Other than the lacquer, they all were in very good condition.